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By Napa gnome ·
I built an Athlon computer for my housekeeper around Christmas. The onboard video card stopped working, so I bought a PCI video card. Now the PC won't even boot up, it freezes at the Windows 2000 screen. I can boot it in safe mode, but that's it. Any ideas??

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Sounds like you need a new mobo

by jmgarvin In reply to Mystery machine

If your on-board stuff starts dying, it is time for a new mobo.

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Replace The Whole Thing

by mjd420nova In reply to Sounds like you need a ne ...

I have never had much luck with anything
but a Pentium and forget about the on board
options. I've found the onboard video, audio
and LAN functions to be very lacking and
the first to fail. Also found it quite
difficult to get onboard functions bypassed
so I could install a replacement card.
Thank goodness for PCI Express

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Yup...

by jmgarvin In reply to Replace The Whole Thing

Onboard LAN, Onboard Audio (5.1 my behind), and Onboard Video all stink.

I also agree with ditching the Intel stuff and going AMD ;-)

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Did you mean vice versa on CPU brand?

by stress junkie In reply to Yup...

I like AMD but I think you mixed up the stated facts. Napa gnome already has an AMD Athlon. Mjd420nova said to chuck it in favor of Intel. So you could't "agree" with chucking Intel. That would be disagreement.

Of course your post could be implying sarcasm with the winky-smiley.

And yes I have to be pretty bored to nit pick. I've been studying the Linux boot sequence again. Repetition is the mother of learning. One day I'll be able to name all of the files involved in the boot sequence for each distribution. The fun part of the Linux boot sequence is that it has several variations. Red Hat is like Solaris. Debian is like the Linux books. And SuSE, well, SuSE has their own way of doing things, but with purpose. :-)

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Clear CMOS

by myrondabs In reply to Yup...

Hi,

I would suggest that you look into your motherboard's manual and clear the CMOS. This usually does the trick. I recently built a PC and had similar problems. After clearing the CMOS it worked well.

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Might be......

by dawgit In reply to Mystery machine

...could be a conflict with two video cards.
make sure the old defective vidio card is 'uninstalled' than you might get a chance to install the one. Also, could be an irq conflict.
you might need to set or change the irq on the new card. Or, new boards are cheep anyway. let us know what happens please. -d

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by Choppit In reply to Mystery machine

You've probably already done this but;

Have you tried disabling the on board video in the BIOS/CMOS or via jumpers?

Have you tried uninstalling the old video device/drivers when booted in safe mode?

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BIOS settings

by Deadly Ernest In reply to Mystery machine

Like Choppit I think the problem is in the BIOS settings. With all the boards that have on board capability, when you wish to use a card instead you ahve to disable the on board system you are replacing - usually in the BIOS, sometimes as a jumper setting. If you do not disable it the system will default to using the on board capability. Also the drivers for the on board system need to be removed and the drivers for the new card loaded.

Personally I have used dozens on boards with all sorts of on board capabilities and have found little problem with them. yes if you want top of the range sound or video you do NOT use on board sound or video as they are not top of the range. For your average home user the on board systems represent a significant saving for a quality difference that they can not detect.

Over the years I have used three AMD chips and had each go belly up within 12 months - and no they were not over clocked. Yet of the dozens of Intel systems I have used I have only had 4 go belly up 1 lasted 8 years, 2 after 10 years, and 1 after 11 years. Also I am still using some 386 and 486 systems for certain things - one is about 15 years old, and five are over 10 years old.

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Drivers Drivers Drivers...

by Frenchwood In reply to BIOS settings

Unfortnately, windows doesn't play well with new drivers, but i wouldn't go to the extent of removing old ones, they are quite happy to sit dormant.

I have been out to many an end user where a failed hardware install has been caused by drivers, so first thing would be to remove the PCI and any accompanying software and follow the instructions to the letter.

(there is also the possiblilty that the board is dead)

Although I agree that the BIOS may need setting up, i have come across many an Amibios that is quite happy to leave the onboard 'live' as well as an expansion board, maybe just an odd setting with Amibios... I have never seen it with any other.

Also, is the board a PCI or an AGP? As this can make a lot of difference to the way that the BIOS treats it.

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CPU

by ip_fresh In reply to Mystery machine

I like AMD but I think you mixed up the stated facts. Napa gnome already has an AMD Athlon. Mjd420nova said to chuck it in favor of Intel. So you could't "agree" with chucking Intel. That would be disagreement.

Of course your post could be implying sarcasm with the winky-smiley.

And yes I have to be pretty bored to nit pick. I've been studying the Linux boot sequence again. Repetition is the mother of learning. One day I'll be able to name all of the files involved in the boot sequence for each distribution. The fun part of the Linux boot sequence is that it has several variations. Red Hat is like Solaris. Debian is like the Linux books. And SuSE, well, SuSE has their own way of doing things, but with purpose.

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