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Nancy Pelosi continues her blatant and arrogant abuse of power

By maxwell edison ·
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Max love fest

by Dr Dij In reply to Nancy Pelosi continues he ...

Gee, I hope this doesn't turn out to be another one.

So Max, you see abuse only where it bothers you. So the republicans aren't abusing power by refusing to debate about when to debate about bills?

So bush isn't abusing power by taking us from a fake surplus to 1.6 trillion more in spending?

And bush isn't abusing power by suspending the constitution in cases of torture?

And abusing power by having the feds pump so much money into the economy that the REAL inflation rate is closer to 10%, and our money is now worth half of what it was only 6 years ago.

It's so bad that even the astronomical house values created by easy money are barely on par with inflation.

You sound like a broken record, playing the same tune over and over

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I don't know...

by Inkling In reply to Max love fest

If Max has defended the things you have brought up in the past. I haven't been around TR long enough to know if he is that hypocritical...

Even if Max is making the point out of some partisan bias, the point is still a damn valid one.

I don't know a single, intelligent person that would classify Bush as a conservative. Conservatives are supposed to be against big government and G.W. has done more to make the government bigger than most presidents.

But, if you think that makes it ok for Pelosi or anyone else to continue and/or worsen the abuse of power and the trampling of our personal freedoms you are mistaken.

Less partisan/personal bullsh*t IMO.

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None of it's right

by Dr Dij In reply to I don't know...

just that Max seems one sided, ignoring other abuse of power.

I do agree with Max at times. He's really against big govt, and everyone seeking for the govt to cure their pet problems.

Tho there seems a disconnect when it comes to respecting the rights of others not to have their world polluted.

And he's right that the big govt is destroying our economy and lives, in ways that are hard to see. Instead of raising taxes 50% in the last 6 years, the government printing press went wild and inflated the money supply by 50%.

So they hide it by printing more money, and people get mad at companies for raising prices. Some of it is hidden by cheap imports. If the govt didn't lie about the real inflation rate, you'd see it at about 10% a year. In the 70's when the Carter admin pumped up money so much that it hit 20% people got mad and told them to stop printing so much.

And to hide it, the govt has now STOPPED publishing the M3 monetary index, which is how much money is in circulation.

Inflation particularly hits the poor and those on fixed incomes and those who can't get raises, widening the gap between the rich and the poor. (see for some more gloomy info on this).

They also have been lying about the growth rates of the economy: any hi-tech computer purchases are counted as many times their value in growth, which is bogus.

After inflation, even the housing values have only kept even with 20 years ago. And soon, other countries and investors will realize that they are losing money by investing in US. Foreign investment (to tune of $800 billion) is all that is keeping the US economy going.

Sadly, other countries are hyperstimulating their economies so that their currencies don't go up vs the US currency. So the US is causing a global 'Weimar Republic economy' where the currency is inflated so fast that you have to take wheelbarrows of cash to buy a loaf of bread.

Yes, this really happened, in Germany during WW2. And is happening today in Zimbabwe, thru the stupidity of their dictator. ANd happened recently in Brazil tho they've been reigning this in.

In Turkey it was so bad that the only thing people could invest in was buildings that would keep their value. And in the EU today, the one thing they don't control is the rate countries expand their money supply to support bloated govts.

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My broken record

by maxwell edison In reply to Max love fest

Okay, guilty as charged. So what's your point? There are some issues on which I'm interested and/or passionate -- just like a lot of people around here. If I'm a broken record, could you name some other people as well who continually play their own tune?

As to your suggestion that I never comment on "Republican abuse of power", feel free to play any of your own broken records. Somebody might listen and/or reply if you phrase it the right way.

By the way, I see that you completely evaded my point. (The sound continually coming from YOUR "broken record".)

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What's the problem?

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Nancy Pelosi continues he ...

According to the Washington Post's article

Hastert began using a plane at Homeland Security's request. Pelosi wants a larger one than Hastert because the old plane that could go to Illinois on one tank of fuel won't go to California non-stop. Since a plane uses more fuel taking off and landing than cruising, it sounds like a cost savings to me.

How is this an abuse of power?

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My understanding...

by Inkling In reply to What's the problem?

is that she wants carte blanche access for her AND her family.

That is abuse of power any way you slice it.

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Unnamed source

by CharlieSpencer In reply to My understanding...

The second page of the Times article quotes "an unnamed source" as saying she's requested "carte blanche", but also says her family would be traveling with her. It says nothing about her family taking independent trips without her. If you have other information, please link it.

I fail to see the problem in her taking her family along. The amount of fuel used by three or four extra passengers is minimal.

I'm neither Republican nor Democrat and normally avoid these discussions, but it looks like there's a lot of fuss being raised based on a single article with a lot of unnamed sources.

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The amount of fuel used by three or four extra passengers is minimal.

by maxwell edison In reply to Unnamed source

But the amount of fuel used by the larger aircrat she is requesting (C-32, C-40B, or C-37) is significant.

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If she's bringing home 3 dozen cheerleaders for Gavin, it could burn a lot

by DelbertPGH In reply to The amount of fuel used b ...

The C40B is a modified 737, with extra communications for airborne commanders. The C32 is a 757. The C37 is a Gulfstream executive jet.

There seems to be a huge range in capacity among these planes. The C37 is a sort of deluxe commuter jet. The C40C would be more likely than the C40B, because the C model lacks all the souped up military command-and-control technology, which Ms. Pelosi would not need, unless she gets a squadron of F-16s and an Army corps to manage, too.

Fact sheets are

The C-40 B/C is based upon the commercial Boeing 737-700 Business Jet. The body of the C-40 is identical to that of the Boeing 737-700, but has winglets. Both models have state of the art avionics equipment, integrated Global Positioning System and Flight Management System/Electronic Flight Instrument System and a heads up display. Heading the safety equipment list is the Traffic Collision Avoidance System and enhanced weather radar. The aircraft is a variant of the Boeing next generation 737-700, and combines the 737-700 fuselage with the wings and landing gear from the larger and heavier 737-800. The basic aircraft has auxiliary fuel tanks, missionized interior with self-sustainment features and managed passenger communications.

The cabin area is equipped with a crew rest area, distinguished visitor compartment with sleep accommodations, two galleys and business class seating with worktables.

The C-40B is designed to be an "office in the sky" for senior military and government leaders. Communications are paramount aboard the C-40B which provides broadband data/video transmit and receive capability as well as clear and secure voice and data communication. It gives combatant commanders the ability to conduct business anywhere around the world using on-board Internet and local area network connections, improved telephones, satellites, television monitors, and facsimile and copy machines. The C-40B also has a computer-based passenger data system.

The C-40C is not equipped with the advanced communications capability of the C-40B. Unique to the C-40C is the capability to change its configuration to accommodate from 42 to 111 passengers.

Primary Function: High-priority personnel transport
Prime Contractor: Boeing (airframe) and CFM International (engines)
Power Plant: Two GE CFM 56-7B27 turbofan engines
Thrust: 27,000 pounds static thrust each engine
Length: 110 feet, 4 inches (33.6 meters)
Height: 41 feet, 2 inches (12.5 meters)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 171,000 pounds
Wingspan: 117 feet, 5 inches (35.8 meters)
Speed: 530 mph (Mach 0.
Ceiling: 41,000 feet (12,727 meters)
Fuel Capability: 60,000 lbs
Maximum Range: 4,500 to 5,000 nautical miles (based on payload) unrefueled range
Maximum Load: C-40B: 26 to 32 passengers; C-40C: 42 to 111 passengers
The C-32 is a specially configured version of the Boeing 757-200 commercial intercontinental airliner. The C-32 body is identical to that of the Boeing 757-200, but has different interior furnishings and 21st century avionics. The passenger cabin is divided into four sections:

-- The forward area has a communications center, galley, lavatory and 10 business class seats.
-- The second section is a fully enclosed stateroom for the use of the primary passenger. It includes a changing area, private lavatory, separate entertainment system, two first-class swivel seats and a convertible divan that seats three and folds out to a bed.
-- The third section contains the conference and staff facility with eight business class seats.
-- The rear section of the cabin contains general seating with 32 business-class seats, galley, two lavatories and closets.

Because the C-32 is a high-standing aircraft, it is easier to see under and around it -- an important security factor for protecting the plane and its passengers.

The C-32 is more fuel efficient and has improved capabilities over its C-137 predecessor. It can travel twice the distance on the same amount of fuel, and operate on shorter runways down to 5,000 feet (1,524 meters) in length. Its 92,000-pound (41,731 kilogram) fuel capacity allows the aircraft to travel 5,500 nautical miles unrefueled.

Heading the safety equipment list is the Traffic Collision Avoidance System and Enhanced Ground Proximity Warning System that gives advance warning of possible air and ground threats. Weather systems are enhanced with a Predictive Windshear Warning System. Other items include the future air navigation system with Global Positioning System and Flight Management System/Electronic Flight Instrument System.

Inside the C-32, communications are paramount. The vice president, heads of state and other decision-makers can conduct business anywhere around the world using improved telephones, satellites, television monitors, facsimiles and copy machines. The C-32 has state-of-the-art avionics equipment.

The C-32 is a military version of the Boeing 757-200 extended range aircraft, selected along with the C-37A to replace the aging fleet of C-137 aircraft. Active-duty aircrews from the 1st Airlift Squadron, 89th Airlift Wing at Andrews Air Force Base, Md., fly the aircraft.

The contract was awarded for the C-32 in August 1996. By using commercial off-the-shelf acquisition practices, a new record has been set from contract award to aircraft delivery -- less than two years. The C-32 is the first military aircraft ever to be acquired in this manner. The 89th Airlift Wing acquired the first of four aircraft in late June 1998.

General Characteristics
Primary Function: High-priority personnel transport
Builder: Boeing Company
Power Plant: Two Pratt and Whitney 2040 engines
Thrust: 41,700 pounds static thrust each engine
Length: 155 feet, 3 inches (47.32 meters)
Height: 44 feet, 6 inches (11.02 meters)
Wingspan: 124 feet, 8 inches (37.99 meters)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 255,000 pounds (115,668 kilograms)
Range: 5,500 nautical miles unrefueled range
Ceiling: 42,000 feet (12,727 meters)
Speed: 530 miles per hour (Mach 0.
Load: 45 passengers
Unit Cost: Unavailable
Crew: 16 (varies with mission)
The C-37A is a twin-engine, turbofan aircraft acquired to fill the worldwide special air missions for high-ranking government and Defense Department officials.

The aircraft contains a modern flight management system with a worldwide satellite-based Global Positioning System. The C-37A is based upon the high-altitude, intercontinental Gulfstream V aircraft, capable of cruise operations from 41,000 to 51,000 feet. Features include enhanced weather radar, autopilot and an ultra modern heads up display for the pilot. Safety features include Enhanced Vision Systems that allows increased visibility in all weather environments. The aircraft is also equipped with both commercial and military communications equipment to provide secure and non-secure voice and data capability.

The 89th Airlift Wing?s 99th Airlift Squadron, Andrews Air Force Base, Md., operates four C-37A's. The 6th Air Mobility Wing?s 310th Airlift Squadron, MacDill AFB, Fla., operates three C-37A's. Both the 15th Airlift Wing, 65th Airlift Squadron at Hickam AFB, Hawaii, and the 86th Airlift Wing, 309th Airlift Squadron, at Chievres Air Base, Belgium, have one C-37A.

General Characteristics
Primary Function: Special air missions
Builder: Gulfstream Aerospace Corp.
Power Plant: Two BMW/Rolls Royce BR710A1-10 high bypass ratio turbofan engines
Thrust: 14,750 pounds each engine
Length: 96 feet, 5 inches (29.38 meters)
Height: 25 feet, 11 inches (7.9 meters)
Wingspan: 93 feet, 6 inches (28.5 meters)
Speed: 600 mph (.885 Mach) maximum
Maximum Altitude: 51,000 feet (15,545 meters)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 90,500 pounds (41,050 kilograms)
Range: 6,300 miles (5,500 nautical miles) normal cruise
Load: 12 passengers
Unit Cost: $36 million (1998 constant dollars)
Crew: Five
Date Deployed: 1998
Inventory: Active force, 9; Air National Guard, 0; Reserve, 0

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Think about this

by maxwell edison In reply to If she's bringing home 3 ...

The people in Congress "work for you". Why is it, then, that YOU'RE not getting one of these things?

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