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by the l\/lusta

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alright whats up people, i work for a big company and on all of the computers we use they have all this admin restrictions for everything you try to do. cant even make a new folder without it giving an error. all i want to do is download msn messenger so work isnt so boring but i can unless i can access admin rights. is there anyway this can be done easily. i looked up some info on it and i know there are some programs you have to download then burn to a cd and run it from shutdown but i dont want to go through all that hassel if possible. any help anyone?

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by shhite

Admin rights are there for a reason and Techrepublic will not assist in bypassing them. If your company has restricted access that much there is a reason for it.

Unless your addmin has restricted access to windows messenger and assuming you are using a Windows OS as well, Windows messenger comes standard and is under tools on your internet explorer page.

by the l\/lusta

we use windows 98 and messenger doesnt come auto on any of our computers. why cant i get help on this forum for such a simple task, i just read a forum on here on a certain way of how to do it but im looking for other ways, but i guess you know it all. anyone that can help please do so thanks people

by ic-it

TechRepublic members do not assist in helping people bypass administrative controls.
Now who do you think a lot of these members are and the type of work that we do?
If you answered administrators, specialists, and etc, you get a gold star and now realize why. ;-)

by jdclyde

if they will, then it will be an "easy" task.

If they don't, you can have an easy time from the unemployment line.

by kenone

We're the folks who are responsible for keeping the crap off of the computers. If that means no IM then that's what it means. In all likelyhood your dept. supervisor (or someone even higher) has requested that messenger be blocked. Therefore it is.

by the l\/lusta

looks like i came to the wrong resource for help, ill look for a forum that can actually help. all i hear is techrepulic this and that. i was askin simple question, thansk anyways

by gate keeper

if it is messenger you are after .. why not use web messenger. i doubt it requires admin privileges and works just as fine for what you want. if that is the only reason you require admin access.

by cmiller5400

Your attitude sucks for trying to do something against company policy, we IT administrators have to clean up after seagulls like you that crap all over the place and muck** up everything.

Go play somewhere else. We don't want you hanging around here.

[b]GOOD BYE[/b] and [B]GOOD RIDDANCE[/B].

**: Please substitute the appropriate word since I can't say it here...

by jdclyde

We do NOT assist fukwits such as yourself, to get around security and company policy.

Bugger off.

I mean that in the nicest way possible, of course.

by w2ktechman

up to this point (as far as I have read) you still dont get it do ya!
Are you STUPID or something?
Look, even if you do install it, it likely wont work anyway, if the administrator(s) have blocked the ports for it!
If you need the application -- go through the proper channels. If it is not needed for work, DO YOUR F**CKING WORK and stop being one of those SH!TA$$ employees that make the stats in favor of offshoring.
F**king dumba$$

by the l\/lusta

forget the meds this morn? your the only one crying here. dont read my posts, thanks "dude"

by the l\/lusta

gatekeeper thanks so much man thats all i needed. i cant believe mr GO AWAY couldnt do something so simple thanks bro

by shhite

The reason no one else suggested web messenger is your attitude sucks. You are odviously not happy with your job and you were trying to get around the system.

by cmiller5400

[b]IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF A SIMPLE ANSWER, YOU ARE VIOLATING COMPANY POLICY.[/b] I hope they [b]fire[/b] you for doing that; I know I would.

I don't need any meds, I am perfectly normal and healthy. I just don't like people who try to circumvent any security policies put in place, they are there for a reason.

You stated yourself that you were leaving so I don't know why you are so upset?

Also, I could have given you the information you needed, but it would have been unethical. Unlike you, I have ethics.

by jiminpa

A good network admin is not going to tell you how to bypass security. I'm glad you were able to get what you need because if your IT staff was smart enough to lock down the desktop then they are likely smart enough to monitor network traffic.

Good luck finding a new job jagoff

by technogeek-1995

This is kinda like a post with network magic. I believe OM has it "bookmarked." It had over 100 posts over Admin Privileges. OM could you bring up that page.

by the l\/lusta

where did you come up with that one? not happy with my job? are you serious? show me YOUR REASONING for saying what you just said, im waiting? did i ever come off i didnt like my job, anything close to it? that was the most adsurd thing i have seen. make a fool out of yourself more please. i already got my help so go and waste someone elses time.

by bizzo

If your company has those restrictions in place then I'm afraid there's no way round it.

All you can do is contact your administrator and ask them to install msn messenger for you.

by jdclyde

I am good at spanking the monkey.... :D

by gate keeper

from what i understand the only reason the man is looking for admin access is just so he can use msn ... if that is the case then provide him with a way to use msn without the need for admin access i.e "educate" wich is the entire reason this Question part of the forum exists .... if after that he still insists he needs help circumventing admin ... then give him hell but now most of you guys are jumping the gun.

by cmiller5400

He is trying to circumvent a policy that was put in place to deny using MSN Messenger. It is [b]crystal clear[/b] on what he is doing and it is against company policy.

by jdclyde

you will understand.

There are rules in place for a reason.

If his boss WANTED him to IM instead of work, it would be installed.

As an employee, you have NO business installing so much as a screen saver on a company system without approval.

by thumbsup2

The original question also stated s/he worked for a COMPANY which has things locked down so tight that s/he can not install anything without admin rights. THAT is the reason nobody will help him/her. We, meaning the members of TR, do NOT help ANYONE circumvent a company's security policy, period.

S/He needs to approach management of the company s/he works for and ask permission to do what s/he wants, NOT ask us for help. If the company grants permission, s/he's home free. They'll probably even help. If they don't give him/her permission..... well, s/he won't find any help here, period.

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by shellbot

if he wanted to bypass the .exe blocker so he could download/install a game on his WORK machine to make "work less boring"??

He has a simple request, but it involves circumventing his IT policy.

But heck..its only messenger right..i'm sure he has no work to do anyways..so i'm sure his boss will be ok with him breaking the rules and us tellin ghim how to do so..

by dumphrey

its impossible to get any kind of virus from an IM client which could put company data and property at risk....

Yeah, and monkeys can fly while JD spanks them.
[edit]

Hmmm, this should be one level up (or left visually) in the thread. Sorry.

by thumbsup2

Gate Keeper, if you truly believe that it's our job to help someone circumvent company policy, then you're in the wrong business and frequenting the wrong forum. Lan Administrator? Yeah right!. I can't believe you would even entertain the idea of providing any kind of help in this matter. Where is your head?

by jdclyde

tend to stand up for each other.

Clearly, neither of them have a sense of work ethic.

by larryd4

Come on, TR gets a lot of good relevant questions and then some pretty obvious attempts(posts) at finding exploits on various systems.

The guy has an attitude and was attracting these types of reponses from his own reponse.

Why does it seem that all the posts asking how to get around security comes from new memebers on a remote island??

ThE l\/luStA
Job role: Technical/PC Support
Location: hollerday, American Samoa
Member since:September 2008

by gate keeper

you guys seem like someone who read about "Network Administration" or Best practices for network admin and doesn't really have that much experience.. I'll let you in on a lil secret son ... it is sometimes counter-productive to be so anal about IT policies.

The policies have been put in place to ensure the most secure,productive use of the IT infrastructure. before you start putting words in my mouth I don't advise you or anybody else do it.

If you read what I wrote I do not condone circumventing security policy but, when faced with a problem it is better to ask the user what it is they are trying to accomplish and most likely you the 'IT guy' know a better more safe way to do it.instead of assuming all users are imbeciles or maliciously trying to bring down the network.

A wise man once said "Never attribute to malice, that which can be explained away by ignorance" I have found this lil gem to be true too many times.

Personally On the network I admin I grant 'local admin' privileges to the users I trust and who know better than to download malware (currently 3 out of 120) etc. I have alot of discretionary power in my role and one thing i have learned is not to be too haste to make judgments.there is a trade-off involved; my guys will not be bothered with the trivial stuff and the user gets 'local admin' as long as he/she does not abuse it.

If you want to have a debate about how strictly IT policies should be enforced then lets do that .. but I don't have the patience for a pissing contest; if its the alphabet soup after my name that you are interested in, I'm not going to blow my own horn ..... but i have almost used up the English alphabet ;)

The only reason I have responded in length to you is, that while you both come off as complete @ssh0les, you most have some positive input here, judging by the thumbs up you have accumulated. (that is a compliment by the way :D )

by the scummy one

Some networks are restricted FOR GOOD REASON, while others are about being more 'anal' sometimes.
So, what if this guy is sitting on a banks machine, and when nobody is in line, he goes off to chat, and gets a virus?
What about at a credit card company while taking applications??
Just because some places are more restrictive without good reason DOES NOT mean that all are. Apparently you are not smart enough to understand the concept, AND to understand why we do/did not help.
Personally, I think IF you are a netadmin, you are not a very good one, or are at a company that can survive from problems such as this. But not all follow your procedures, nor should!

by jdclyde

If someone NEEDS to make changes to their WORK pc, they should ALWAYS check with the IT department first.

Should someone give your untrustworthy users a work-around that gives them local admin access?

If it IS a work related package, do you really think that IT would not work with him on this? He came to us because he knows it is something he is NOT suppose to be doing.

Has nothing to do with malice and everything to do with chain of command. I would respect yours, why wouldn't you respect mine?

by w2ktechman

DumbA$$ -- you dont even know what you wrote, what a Sh!t for Brains you are.
Now go away loser!!!

by jdclyde

A little colorful, but gets the point across very well.

by thumbsup2

.... not to mention professional ethics.

Network Admin? Ha! Sounds more like this is a new nic for the 13-year old who controls his "home network" and wants to be able to monitor his older sister's personal "activities". Neither know anything about ethics. ;)

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by 1bn0

Subverting the admin password is easy.

Just provide the e-mail address of one of your system administrators.

With that we can make sure you do not have any further issues trying to install software on your company computer.

by gate keeper

your's senior scummy is a valid point ... while my original reply would be good enough for my users that is not necessarily the case for every network.

as to how good I am, it got me where I am today .. so i cant complain.

by jdclyde

my reply is "everyone else here thinks I am, so they keep me around".

B-)

by Former member

NT

by jdclyde

a big no-no in most companies.... especially if he goes to plug it into the company network.

by oh smeg

Buy the place out and when you own it you can set IT Policy or at least listen to the IT Professionals as to why this [b]Is Not Allowed.[/b]

By doing things like this you are stealing from your Employer and are a [b][u]Thief.[/b][/u] As a Thief you deserve to be placed in Jail for ever as you are unrepentant in your Activities and consider this your Due Right to do as you please.

If the Boss or IT wanted you to use MSN it would be installed on your workstation and be open for all to abuse and not only [b]Steal[/b] Company Bandwidth but the Companies Time as well by you not doing your job and slacking off playing around wasting time.

Work isn't supposed to be all fun and games it is called work for a very good reason because you trade your Skill and Time in return for Money. But if you really want to persist in your life of [b]Crime[/b] approach your Boss and ask for MSN to be loaded on your workstation and in return you will accept a 95% [b]Pay Cut[/b] as that is what it will cost to support just you with a massive hole in the IT Security's System.

Better of quitting now and stop wasting your employers [b]Time and Money[/b] and find a job that you can do like watching the grass grow in the Sahara Desert.

You've most defiantly come to the wrong place to ask for assistance to commit a Crime as all here are Professionals who are employed to Secure Systems like this not Crack Them for Fun. Go to a Crackers Site and hopefully the Filters where you are supposed to be working will pickup your activity and they will remove you without any warning or pay for [b]Attempted Pilfering.[/b] Personally if it was up to me I would Torture you for long periods of time with a Ant Hill and lots of sticky Liquid in the middle of summer, to teach you the error of your ways and at the very least drum in some Common Sense into what passes as a brain that you seem to think you posses.

If you want Technical Help with something then everyone here would most likely help you out but to commit a Criminal Act your on your own as we like what we do and will not stand for Crackers.

Col

by the scummy one

I thought you were 'perfect' :0
What a harsh sentence for this loser. What would be more appropriate would be for this loser just to blow his head off or something :D

by oh smeg

A Life Sentence isn't harsh when there is no repentance for their Criminal Antisocial Activity. I think that it would be far worse to allow this Idiot to mix with Society as they are far more likely to Pollute the Gene Pool with others who think that they have a right to do as they please while on others [b]Time and Equipment.[/b]

In a Single Sex Jail there would be no chance of this one polluting the Gene Pool. :D

Col

by oh smeg

Speak for yourself as I'm [b]PERFECT.[/b] :p

I know because I read it on the Internet once and I also Perform Miracles Immediately the Impossible takes slightly longer and for Comic Relief I walk on Water on the Week End well the Weekends that I'm not working at least. :0

While I will accept that No End User is the Perfect Idiot this one at least comes close posting a Cracking Question on a IT Professional Web Site and then complaining when we don't tell it how to Crack the System. Seems pretty close to a [b]Perfect Idiot[/b] to me at least. :D

Col ]:)

by 1bn0

I only promise the impossible will be accomplished within 2 years.

by oh smeg

I do this daily well most days at least. :D

Then I have to spend 3 weeks explaining why it works the way it does. :0

Col

by shhite

lol. Just quit and find a job that allows msn msngr. Not sure where you would find one but hey they have to be out there.

by thumbsup2

Don't you find it funny that, after you've fixed something, users will always ask you WHY (not HOW) that particular "something" happened and you know, given their level of comprehension, they would never be able to understand it even IF you knew the answer?

I often explain it to them by saying something like "Well, if you had not done [i]this[/i], then [i]that[/i] would not have happened." Then they ask, "How did you know that I had done [i]this[/i]? I don't remember doing it, but I must have. How did you know to look there?" I just tell them I'm psychic! ;)

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