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http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodcpusupport&prod_no=227&maincat_no=1#menu

The motherboard is a 945PL Neo, and above is a link to the supported CPU's that will drop into the board.

Was a learning experience that you have to check for more than the socket type. X-(

I need to find at least ONE CPU that will drop into this MB, and would even take used, but would get two if I can get my hands on it.

I am getting backup parts for a controller system that is used for running some industrial equipment, and the vendor will soak me about $7k for a system if it were to die (again).

I have gone through all of my normal vendors and turned up nothing.

Thanks!

jd

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by Former member

I have downloaded the manual and it says that the processor type is of the LGA 775.

Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.
If this info is useful, please give a thumbs up. Thanks

by jdclyde

I suppose I was not clear enough. The link is to what CPU's are and are not supported.

I BOUGHT a LGA775 processor, but it does not work because the voltage is not the same.

Specifically, I got the E2180, which I THOUGHT would just drop in place, after reading the same thing you did. No deals.

The list is in the original link, but being a few years old, FINDING one is the problem.

I was hoping one of the hardware guys on the site would know about CPU compatibility AND have a source for tracking down a compatible one.

by jweninger

Are you sure your motherboard is v2.2? If so the e2180 should work.

If you have v1.x look on ebay or craigslist for one of the supports Pentiums.

by Former member

What seams to the problem. Does it boot or what?
Could need more info here.

Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.

by ic-it

The CPU you bought should work, However you do need at least a flash to Version 5.2 BIOS.

If you could borrow one of the other CPUs (none 5.2 requirement) you could update the BIOS and then swap out the CPUs again. (This presumes that you also have the Version 2.2 Motherboard described in your link).

by rahouseholder

What version PCB and Bios do you have? That has a huge determining factor in which CPU is supported.

by jdclyde

The board is a
945PL Neo
MS-7236 Ver 1.0
N1996

Sorry, I forgot to point at which tab, and the ver1.0 MB is NOT compatible with the E2180. (my bad)

This gets me a little over half way down the list before I start getting compatible CPU's.

I also do not have a CPU that I can drop on this system to try a BIOS update. :(

Any suggestions on sources to find one of these CPU's?

by jdclyde

I called MSI directly, and they are doing a search on the PCBv2.2.

Up to this point, I have just been trying to find a CPU to drop into the Ver1 MB, and have had zero luck.

Now, if I CAN still find a CPU that will go on the old MB, that would be ideal as I have two of these MB's. (for backup purposes).

Do you have a vendor that is good at tracking down older parts?

by jdclyde

Is there a way to know which version of Bios is on this mb without firing it up? I don't see it anywhere....

My next concern is for the Ver1.0 MB, the CPU's say "Since 1.9". but I have no idea what ver I am dealing with. :(

by ic-it

But the manual for V1.0 shows a 3.0 BIOS in Oct 05 and the specs state they are made for the 5xx series processors. Hopefully they shipped with at least V1.9 BIOS. I'd ring them back and see if there is a way to tell.
WAIT, open the case and see if that one has a sticker on the BIOS. I'll cross my fingers for you. :-)

by dr dij

recomp out here.
recycles working computers, tests them and sells them cheap.

I occasionally get replacements for a PIII system for an older video game that won't run on anything newer.

recomp.com

by oh smeg

Whip out the BIOS IC and replace it. BIOSMAN sells these for about $25.00 per IC + shipping so it's far simpler to just change the BIOS Chip with one that supports the newer CPU's.

http://www.biosman.com/

I've used them for years for BIOS Chips for servers as it's easier to replace the BIOS Chip than run the risk of having a Flash go wrong and then the server is off line till a new BIOS Chip can be sourced.

That way you'll get support for the newest CPU's that are available and should be easy to source.

With this M'Board you'll need the Tool to pull the BIOS Chip which is a plastic thing that pulls the chip on diagonal corners. As this has a Surface Mount IC Socket on the Board you can not insert the IC the wrong way provided that you remember that the sticker on the IC goes away from the M'Board that is.

As for finding a suitable CPU ask Intel here they have a lot of CPU's that they still supply that are not common stock for most suppliers they can point you to a source for a specific CPU if you ask them for a source.

Col

by thechas

Well, my "normal" preferred sources for older CPUs did not provide much this time.

The 2 CPUs that my friends at Compter Geeks have:

http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=277

are listed as "Under Testing".

On the West side of the state, we have several firms that do computer recycling and sell parts. One is CompRenew. However, the last time I was in there, they no longer were selling pieces parts.

You might check and see what the local Goodwill main office does with the computer parts they take in.

A few years back when we had the regular traveling computer sales, there were several dealers from the Detroit / Ann Arbor area that had older and used parts.

Another option is resellers that focus on the industrial market. There is Industrial PC in Indiana that might have CPUs available. Also a firm in New York called Global American.

The last time I needed an old CPU, I had pretty good luck with a Google search.

Chas

by jdclyde

Going to have to give them a call.

Thanks.

by jdclyde

I messed up with the link, and forgot to state the V1.0

very long list of processors, that won't work... damnitallanyways.....

by Former member

I have a little stock of old processors laying around so i will check. Unless you have found some in the mean time.

Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.

by jdclyde

First, going to try the bios chip that Col recommended.

Saw some chips on pricewatch, but have found in this search that many on-line sites list parts they don't really have and you don't find out the truth until about two months after you order.

If you have one of the compatible chips, I would want to keep that option open, but as a last resort. From past experience, the shipping would be as much as the chip. Thanks for the offer, and feel free to peer me if you do have one.

Thanks.

by oh smeg

As the chip Set may be different to a Version 1.1 or higher design or the layout may be different. But if it is just a BIOS Version Issue it will certainly fix the problem and be quite cheap as well.

While you can purchase the Surface Mount IC Extraction Tool anywhere or even use a small screwdriver to remove the IC for what BIOSMAn want for the extraction tool it would probably cost more in your Labor fees than to save a couple of $ than what it costs directly from them. And they all come at the same time so you don't run the risk of getting the extraction Tool Pilfered or otherwise broken.

As I do a lot of Electronic Work I already had all the IC Extraction Tools so this didn't apply to me but for the $10.00 or so that this place charges you are sure that you are getting the correct Tool for that M'Board.

Col

by jdclyde

gave them all of my stats, of where I am now, and where I need to end up.

If they say yes, I will do this.

If not, I will resort to getting one of the celerons I saw on the pricewatch link from further up. The system is not processor intensive, so it really doesn't matter how fast it is.

Having the MB updated IS far more attractive for me though.

And yeah, the right tool for the job. Back when I was taking "digital circuits", I saw many a mangled circuit.... :D Besides, work is paying the $10, not me. B-)

by jdclyde

A rep from PCmall called and wanted my business.

I told him I had a test sale, and would see what he could do for me.

He had the CPU found the next day. :D

I have it, and the system now posts. It hangs during the boot process, but I can start looking at that tomorrow.

I have identical hardware as another system with a raid. I pulled one of the drives and replaced it with another drive, and rebuilt the raid.

I have that pulled drive in this system, and theoretically it should just work, right? Might need to boot to the raid controller and configure that though.

That, if I can't figure it out, will be a new question.

Thanks for everyones help.

by Former member

NT

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