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need location of Registry keys for: . . .

By Who Am I Really ·
a> do not display 'Install Updates and Shut Down' option in the Shut Down Windows dialog box.

b> do not adjust default option to 'Install Updates and Shut Down' option in the Shut Down Windows dialog box.

I know how to adjust the group policies for these in XP-Pro but there is no policy editor in Home

yay!, good one MS, the home user is supposed to know how to edit the registry ?!? WT#
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here's the story,
I usually avoid XP Home like the plague,

but I'm doing a favor for a friend:
a> his system has barely any hours logged (less than 2100 POH)
b> his HDD fried because of a bad bump
so
- I ordered a new extra large 320GB HDD
(OEM installed a 60GB)
- I also ordered 2GB RAM
(OEM installed 512MB)
- for a total of around $240.00
(it's a nearly brand new system again)
- downloaded all the drivers for the unit
- did a fresh install of XP SP3
- installed the drivers
- started win update in "Download & notify" mode, and got a list of 85 updates

the, "install updates and shut down"
is a Royal PITA,
but I can't seem to find anything to point me to the right key to modify or add to prevent this from popping up
(my googling skils aren't the greatest)

it's been my experience that more updates fail to install or can / will hose a system when more than one is installed,
I'd say a good percentage of complaints about win updates hosing a system has to do with bulk application of updates

since the policy was implemented here
- install all updates individually

we haven't been bit by the:
"an update just hosed a system"
or
"an update or group of updates shows as failed on the win updates site"

I've seen on many occasion when checking the win updates site a bunch of the little red (X) notifications for failed updates
where updates were applied in bulk to Win2K and XP systems

but have yet to see the update(s) failed notification on a system where updates are applied individually

with all that info
that's why I need to know where the keys are so I can export one or both from a pro machine

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Have a look here.

by seanferd In reply to need location of Registry ...

http://gps.cloudapp.net/ GP search

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=18C90C80-8B0A-4906-A4F5-FF24CC2030FB Spreadsheets. Just read the Overview descriptions to see which apply to your SP level of XP.

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still working at it . . .

by Who Am I Really In reply to Have a look here.

I checked the downloads and can only use two of the four as I can't open the .xlsx files here (it's still 2003 here)

can I push those .xlsx files out to google docs to open them?

I checked the ones I could open and don't see the options specific to adjust these settings for XP Home

the GP list in the WindowsServer2003SP2GroupPolicySettings.xls
sheet starts with the third policy:
> Configure Automatic Updates
skipping the first 2 policies

and the list in the WindowsVistaGroupPolicySettings.xls
gives requirements of
> At least Microsoft Windows XP Professional with SP2

also, in the list on the MSDN Page both policies are listed as minimum XP-Pro

If I push these keys will it hose the XP home install or will they just be ignored?
- I'm not worried about losing activation, because I don't activate windows until all updates and full configuration is completed
- I just don't like starting from scratch

There's still over 70 updates to apply and getting a tad tired of that shutdown dialog changing to
> "Install Updates and shut down"
when I'm doing the required Restart after applying an update

- I deployed the keys for IE7 & IE8 blocking and those seem to be working, I haven't seen either IE7 or IE8 in the updates list

- both IE blocker tools seem targeted to XP Pro systems, but the reg entries appear to be working on Home

- the next step is to block WiMP-11 as we're going to use WiMP10, it's a tad better than both 9 & 11
> 9 is the original XP MP
> 10 is the XP MCE player
> 11 belongs to vista and has no place on XP

yada yada yada . . .

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xlsx files

by seanferd In reply to still working at it . . .

Just get the update thingumie for 2k3 - it's what I'm using.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924074

"If I push these keys will it hose the XP home install or will they just be ignored?"

They should work, or be ignored. The original XP spreadsheet from a couple of years ago was built specifically for adding the keys to XP Home.


For what you are doing, might it not be easier to slipstream an install disk, removing the updates you don't want?

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Applying all updates . . .

by Who Am I Really In reply to xlsx files

except IE7, IE8, WiMP11

and applying individually, not in bulk,

doing that has never caused any problems
(except for the amount of time it takes)

bulk update application has caused me several problems in the past, from:
- failed installation of updates, as noted on the win updates site link:
"review my update history"
to
- a completely hosed machine requiring re-installation of the system that was just installed

I've never been able to get an "updated CD" to work


I'll try pushing those .xlsx files out to google docs to see what happens
(I'll send them to my GMail account to see if it offers to view in g docs)

I only have Excel 2003 installed from the Office Basic CD
and have never gotten an update notification for it even after installing / upgrading to "Microsoft Update" from the winupdate site

"Microsoft Update" is supposed to offer updates for all MS products installed, but it hasn't ever offered anything for MSO Excel 2003 and I've had that machine since Feb. 2007

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I don't think it comes as an update.

by seanferd In reply to Applying all updates . . ...

It's just an optional Compatibility Pack. I said, "update", but only in the sense that it updates Office to read the new formats. I don't believe it is pushed as an MS Update to Office (or I wouldn't have to suggest to so many people that they install it.)

I have no experience with Google Docs - let me know how that goes.

All points about your update process taken. I understand. I have done it that way myself several times.

Something you might want to consider is downloading the SP iso setup files, plus all the more recent updates, then install them locally after killing Wupdate. No messages without the Wupdate client. (Or, make sure you have the latest Wupdate client installed before applying any other patches.)

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Office 2003 . . .

by Who Am I Really In reply to I don't think it comes as ...

in order to add the 2007 capabilities to Office 2003
- the site says that all high priority updates must be installed first, including Office yada yada yada pack,
I stopped reading when it said all updates because I've never been offered any Office Updates

that's the only reason I mentioned that,

I posted them both to google docs,
the easy way,
I emailed them to my Gmail and then selected
"Open as a Google spreadsheet"

however, there is a problem with one of them where I can't scroll the window to see the actual cells
I get some silly mini popup that says:

"The current window is to small to properly display the sheet..."
well duh, I'd need a monitor the size of a football pitch to see the entire sheet

but I can still read the contents in the "Formula bar"

I'll post back when the deed is done and if / when the "Home" system is behaving properly!

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The bit about the compatability pack

by seanferd In reply to Office 2003 . . .

is really odd. I never ran into that. But then MS has been improving on what a pain in the *** it is for years.

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The Deed is Done . . .

by Who Am I Really In reply to need location of Registry ...

I imported the HKLM key from my XP-Pro install for;

a> do not display 'Install Updates and Shut Down' option in the Shut Down Windows dialog box.

b> do not adjust default option to 'Install Updates and Shut Down' option in the Shut Down Windows dialog box.

the setting is applied,
no more
- "Install Updates & Shut Down"

Success !!!

Thanks for the help!

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Sweet!

by seanferd In reply to The Deed is Done . . .

Give yourself a Thumb, eh? :-bd

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