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    Need your guidance… What course to choose?

    by pmfc26 ·

    Hey everyone,
    recently it was launched a program in my country with the aim of requalifying people to the IT field. I am a civil engineer and I decided to quit my job to participate in this program.

    The program consists of six months of intensive classroom training and a further three months of internship at a tech company. There is a guarantee that the companies will hire at least 80% of the participants.
    The thing is I have no idea which course to choose.

    The training offers are as follows:

    • Java
    • Web front-end (Angular & Javascript/React)
    • System Admin
    • Networking & Cybersecurity (OP)
    • Datawarehouse/BI
    • COBOL
    • .NET
    • Guidewire/Java
    • Mambu/Java
    • Outsystems
    • Appian
    • ServiceNow
    • Microsoft Power Platform
    • Microsoft CRM
    • Salesforce
    • Cloud (AWS)
    • Cloud (Azure)
    • SAP HCM Success Factors (EC)
    • SAP S/4HANNA Finance; Logistics; PLM

    This is a life changing decision… feeling anxious…

    Can anyone provide some guidance?

    Thanks guys

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    • #4007281
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      Back to said school.

      by rproffitt ·

      In reply to Need your guidance… What course to choose?

      Most schools have guidance counselors so get back to that or your other school to have this discussion.

      As to the 80% rate, that’s usually how training companies SELL their training. Be sure you are not falling for a sales pitch on training.

      I consider myself a successful coder and electronics designer but my learning spanned decades and wasn’t obtained in any 3 or 6 month retraining course. It was the usual coursework at college and fortunately for me, opportunities on the job. I started as an entry level electronics tech and contributed with design changes and later software efforts.

      Again, go meet with the school’s guidance and job counselors.

      • #4007331

        Thank you for your reply

        by pmfc26 ·

        In reply to Back to said school.

        No one is trying to sell me anything. The government is going to pay me to learn tech skills, as there is a big shortage of workers in the IT field, and the companies who offer (and pay) the internships (Deloitte, Accenture, AWS, Microsoft, Cisco, Google, Inetum, Capgemini, etc) employ more than 90% of the trainees who finish the training. This is the third edition of the program.

        I plan to work at least 35 more years so I am going to make this move.

        Longevity implies thinking about the future.

        • #4007335
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          You are being sold something.

          by rproffitt ·

          In reply to Thank you for your reply

          If this is a pay for training system, you are being sold a product. It doesn’t matter if the gov is paying the bill.

          The companies you listed send folk without degrees to the bottom of the list. If you are working on your degree that’s something else and internships are common. But trade/training only rarely gets to the 80% employment rate. I know folk want it to be true and those that sell this product will defend their training school and product.

          Here in the US there was and is still a lot of schemes. Some were so outrageous that lawsuits happened and the students got refunds or their loans discharged.

        • #4007366

          Ok but…

          by pmfc26 ·

          In reply to You are being sold something.

          I understand what you are saying. And I appreciate your opinion. Truly.

          But what I want right now is to get into the IT field. And this is the best available (and fastest) way to do it. We all have to start somewhere.

          My question was/is: “If you were in my position, what technology skill would you choose to start with?” (Considering all your previous knowledge).

        • #4007382
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          My view

          by rproffitt ·

          In reply to Ok but…

          Is as someone that has been around computing since the 1970’s. I’ve seen many things come and go.

          But what is IT? Is it the people that run around plugging the mice back in or are you expecting to get a job setting up the SQL server?

          It doesn’t matter what I know or have done. It matters to you what your goal is.

          If it’s a job in IT then be aware that Work From Home decimated the usual offices with 100’s of workers and the usual IT work that was there.

          Yet those that sell training will always tell you what it takes for you to sign up.

        • #4007445

          You live in a different reality than mine

          by pmfc26 ·

          In reply to My view

          You live in a high-income country where there are many opportunities.

          I live in a low-income country. Why do you think big tech companies have hubs here? For the same reason that nike and tesla have factories in vietnam and china: cheap skilled labor.

        • #4007447
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          Another red flag.

          by rproffitt ·

          In reply to You live in a different reality than mine

          You can’t image the amount of spam for “IT Training in (insert country here.”

          After you complete your training you are not skilled. That happens after a year or more.

          I might change that statement if you already hold a degree in Math or a related field.

          Back to you. What interests you and which training courses result in the highest employment percent?

        • #4007464

          Maybe another red flag but…

          by pmfc26 ·

          In reply to Another red flag.

          I know that after this training program I won’t be “skilled” in anything but maybe this is the start of something.

          I have a master’s degree in structural engineering and it has been of no use to me

        • #4007480
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          Fantastic.

          by rproffitt ·

          In reply to Maybe another red flag but…

          That means you have more than basic maths out of the way.

          -> In the US there’s a shortage of structural engineers to sign off on Residential Rooftop Solar Designs. Some of this is automated but not all.

          Any interest in Solar?

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      by birdmantd ·

      In reply to Need your guidance… What course to choose?

      I can almost guarantee that hiring 80% of participants is likely to be nothing more than a boast. Best wishes though.

    • #4007562
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      Re: course

      by kees_b ·

      In reply to Need your guidance… What course to choose?

      I have to agree with Proffitt that it’s best to go and talk with the study advisers of the institute that gives the course.

      They know the local situation (for example: why learn 60 year old COBOL if no company in your country uses it any more), you can discuss your background and preferences, they know more of the companies offering an internship (you might have reasons to prefer company X above company Y) and they can tell more about expected developments in the various specialties.

      From what you tell, there doesn’t seem to be any reason why you shouldn’t be able to succeed in any of those areas. But probably you thought the same when you started your study in civil engineering, so it’s no guarantee at all.

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