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.Net world - keeping updated

By onbliss ·
Okay, few confessions:
1)I have not being paying much attention to what is happening in the .Net world. Heard about .net 3.0 :-)
2) Have not been reading my MSDN magazine.
3) Free subscription to Visual Studio magazine just terminated :-)

Only I and Only I am to blame myself for not being up-to-date. Though I have recommended websites to .net newbies, here before, I would like some recommendations.

What are the websites and magazines that you frequent or read to keep yourself informed as far as .net programming goes? Where do you look for the latest take on architecture and design practices/patterns in the .net world? What do you read to see the future trend of .net?

A big thanks to you all.

ps: And by the way, I have been programming using vb.net/c# & asp.net for the last 3-4 years.

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You know more...

by dawgit In reply to .Net world - keeping upda ...

Than I do on the over-all subject. I use .net, (key word = use) but don't program in it. As to what I do see (around me, here.) is .net 2.0 is really comming into bloom. Most of the compatability bugs are getting worked out and people are rather comfortable with it.
With .net 3.0 however, it's bringing a bit of the lothsum philophsy of doom. Too much too soon. Web 2.0, Vista, (including Office 2007) and on top of that- .net 3.0, one at time. Field one, get it right, then bring in another. It's either another brick in the wall of paridise, or another nail in the coffin. (depending on the perspective)
The main question is of course, if Vista (and Office 2007, they're tied together here) Tank due to the compatability, Security, and with Web 2.0, inherent compliance problems, Will .net 3.0 even be relevant? -d

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Programmer, Yes. But do I ....

by onbliss In reply to You know more...

..know more about the over-all subject? I can't be sure :-) There is always so many things to learn.

Are you suggesting that .Net 3.0 will cause .net to die?

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God I hope not

by jmgarvin In reply to Programmer, Yes. But do I ...

.Net is one of the few things MS has done right in the past few years.

Sure .Net 1.1 was a little iffy, but 2.0 is pretty solid and usable....then MS goes and breaks the whole framework in Vista.

You have to wonder if one hand even knows what the other is doing.

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Have to disagree

by onbliss In reply to God I hope not

...ignore the title...I was just being ...(fill up the blanks)... :-) :-)

I agree with your thoughts. I have been programming in 2.0 for a year now. Looks quite solid and usable (borrowing your words). Even 1.1 was not all that bad.

As I said in the original post, I have not been paying much attention to 3.0, so did MS really break it? Oh well they always got things right/better after version 3.0. Maybe they are already looking at Net 5.0 :-)

For now the bread and butter (plus strawberry jam) on our dinning table depends on .Net.

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Ok, but....

by dawgit In reply to Have to disagree

it seems all the p'nut butter is on everything Web2:0 and whatever will support that. Ajax is the big buzz word here, how and how-well .net fits in, is what most people are working for. Web3.0 is a big unknown, as is how Vista/Office 2007 is going to fit in anywhere. (They're bundled here) -d

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.Net apps and Vista

by jmgarvin In reply to God I hope not

The problem I've seen is that .Net 2.0 doesn't work in Vista. There are too many funky things going on under the hood and MS has effectively crippled one of their flagships.

I hope 3.0 keeps some backwards compatibility or they fix the JIT to work in different environments dynamically (eg knows it XP or Vista).

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by TechExec2 In reply to .Net apps and Vista

When you say ".Net 2.0 doesn't work in Vista", are you referring to UAC breaking applications? Or, is there a basic problem with the .NET 2.0 Framework on Vista? If so, what are the problems as you see them?

I'm generally familiar with .NET programming, but I've stayed out of doing any real work in it so far.

Thanks.

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I've heard that too...

by dawgit In reply to Question

Since I haven't really been able to totaly tear apart a Vista OS (yet.!.) I can only relay what I've been told / heard. Vista comes with .net 3.0 (so I've been informed) and that is what the OS is looking at. Since we're dealing with M$ here, to un-install .net 3.0 and to try to install .net 2.0 you will get the "Can not install an earlier version" Warning. (Like trying to install XP Home version over a XP Pro. or Win2k over WinXP ? ) If that's not totaly correct, I hope someone points out the error of my thinking here. -d

edited because of big fingers again. -d

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Until jmgarvin replies...

by TechExec2 In reply to I've heard that too...

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Until jmgarvin replies, this is what I found just now and would have expected. But, you never know! I'm surprised that Vista was released after all of this time with so many ISV and IHV problems. :-)


"...There are no changes to the version of the .NET Framework 2.0 components included in the .NET Framework 3.0. This means that the millions of developers who use .NET today can use the skills they already have to start building .NET Framework 3.0 applications. It also means that applications that run on the .NET Framework 2.0 today will continue to run on the .NET Framework 3.0..."

.NET Framework 3.0 Versioning and Deployment Q&A
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/winfx/aa663314.aspx

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Relief

by onbliss In reply to I've heard that too...

"...There are no changes to the version of the .NET Framework 2.0 components included in the .NET Framework 3.0. This means that the millions of developers who use .NET today can use the skills they already have to start building .NET Framework 3.0 applications. It also means that applications that run on the .NET Framework 2.0 today will continue to run on the .NET Framework 3.0..."

That is a relief!

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