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Network not sharing though set up right

By winmorgan ·
I have a desktop PC running Windows 2000
and a new Dell laptop running XP Pro. I?m a
novice with Windows, having used Mac for 6
years. I managed to get both computers
networked OK by installing NetBEUI (even
though XP doesn?t care for NetBEUI), and they
were sharing files fine and suddenly one
direction of the connection stopped working.
Both machines still see each other, but, if I?m
trying to access things like the Desktop or My
Documents of the desktop machine from the
laptop, I?m suddenly getting messages that
access is denied and I may not have
permission. I?m the administrator and only
user of both machines. The desktop has it?s
hard drive, and all of the pertinent subfolders
set to sharing with no restrictions. (As I say, it
was working until last night when it stopped.)

I can still swap files by accessing the laptop
via the desktop and copying files that way, but
I?d like it to work both ways, which it was doing
just fine until it stopped. The only thing I did
before things stopped working was install MS
Office 2000 on the laptop. NOTHING has
been changed or altered on the desktop
machine, and that?s the one the laptop is
telling me I don?t have permission to access.
There are some folders I can access on the
desktop via the laptop, BUT NOT the ones I
want. For example, I can access all the
Program files on the desktop from the laptop,
but not the Desktop or My Documents.

Any ideas?

Thanksfor any and all help,

Win

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by centaurus In reply to Network not sharing thoug ...

hi

u should check your permissions in the system, go to administrative tools - computer management - shared folders - shares, u cant set everything here.
i also sugest migrating your network to TCP/IP and using "simple sharing"
regards

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by winmorgan In reply to Network not sharing thoug ...

Hi, and thanks.

I did check all permissions via the route you suggested,
but they're all as I said they were?i.e., everything is set to
share. (In re your second suggestion: Can't do the TCP/IP
route because I don't have a gateway...all comp.s connect
via e-net hub.)

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by qballrail In reply to Network not sharing thoug ...

Everything Centaurus says is sound with the exception of migrating to TCP/IP. Without a router, TCP/IP setup is next to impossible unless you install that. NetBEUI works just fine. It's possible too that your protocol has become corrupt on the desktop. Try removing and reinstalling. I have a small 3 station network in my home on NetBEUI: The server runs XP Pro, my laptop runs 2K, 98 and another PC on 98 and all talk to each other just fine, with the exception of 98 to 2K for obvious file system limitations. All share the internet connection. When NetBEUI is removed, none can see the other, although all still have internet access.

If it worked fine before you installed Office, check your startup menu. As obscure as it may sound, if Office is in your startup (go to start> programs> startup and remove the Office startup from there. Also in msconfig, go to start> run> then type msconfig and select startup then deselect (uncheck) Office. Although it may launch just a little faster, having Office in your startup takes up unnecessary resources. Also, unless you absolutely have to use the Office quicklaunch menubar, remove that as well. I have noticed Office doing strange things after install and sometimes network access has been one of them. Just a shot.

Good luck!

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by winmorgan In reply to Network not sharing thoug ...

Hi, and thanks. I agree about NetBEUI. I'm going to
try the other things you suggested re the Start menu.
BUT...I don't know what you mean by, "It's possible too that
your protocol has become corrupt on the desktop. Try
removing and reinstalling." Are you speaking of removing
NetBEUI and reinstalling it?

Also, I went to start>run>msconfig and did as you suggest
(unchecked Office). Tried going to start>all
programs>startup, but I can't find "startup" via that route. I
went to Start>Properties>Customize, but the only two
programs that are checed are for Int.Explorer and email (I
unchecked the email). So...guess I got Office out via the
msconfig window but not via your first suggestion (the
Startup menu...can't figure it out).

Anyway, with Office not launching now, I still get the same
message that the folders I want are not accessible, and
that I might not have permissions.

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by R. A. Caluste In reply to Network not sharing thoug ...

file sharing is affected by two kinds of permissions, the sharing permissions and file permissions (if you have ntfs). i am thinking that you might have ntfs, and security permissions might have been reset for certain folders. Even though you have sharing permissions on certain folders, if you don't have necessary ntfs permissions, you can't get access. if you are running a peer-to-peer workgroup connection, try adding the username you use in your laptop into your desktop pc and vice versa and assign them neccessary access level (poweruser to admin, your choice). then right click on the folder you are sharing, select the security tab and see if everyone is enabled full access or you can simply add the username from the other machine and give it full access, aside from the sharing permissions. hope this helps.

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by winmorgan In reply to Network not sharing thoug ...

Well...I tried going to the folders in question, and to
Sharing>Permissions. I then try to add my laptop (name
is WinDel) from the workgroup "WORKGROUP," to which
both computers belong. I do this by going to the folder in
question, right clicking, and going to
Sharing>Permissions>Add. The dialogue box asks me to
Look In: (either the desktop computer's name or the
WORKGROUP). I go to WORKGROUP and it shows a
number ob possibles ("Everyone" "Authenticated Users"
etc.). At the bottom of this list is WinDel (the name of the
laptop), and it shows it in the Folder WORKGROUP.
When I click on that name (WinDel) and then click "Add," it
adds it into the bottom window, but when I then click "OK,"
I then get amessage saying: "Security: Unable to lookup
user names for display." Only option is to cancel out of the
box via the "OK" button. Which brings me back to the
window where I added WinDel, but, since something can't
occur (after the "unableto lookup user names..."
message), the "Apply" box is greyed out (I assume
because no changes have taken place). So...I still can't
access the folders I want.

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by winmorgan In reply to Network not sharing thoug ...

I do seem to have discovered a workaround,
which is that I can copy the folder(s) I want to
the All Users > Documents folder, and can
access that from the laptop. (i.e., I copy it from
the "main" desktop to the All Users,
Documents folderand then can get at it), but
I'd REALLY like to not have to go through this
dance if anyone has any ideas.

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by Joseph Moore In reply to Network not sharing thoug ...

Are the passwords for the Administrator account on both machines the same, or did you change one of them? Since you are in Workgroup mode, you have to make sure that the account you are logged in with (you said the Admin account, right?) has the exact same user name AND password.

hope this helps

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by winmorgan In reply to Network not sharing thoug ...

7/11/02 *THIS IS THE THIRD TIME I'VE TRIED TO RATE THESE ANSWERS AND CLOSE THIS QUESTION!* My apologies for whatever is malfunctioning and caused these ratings to be delayed...I just got a notice today that the question was still "open." Oy! First, many thanks to all who replied; this answer was the only one that helped as there was a password problem as Joseph suggested. Thanks again for all the help, Win

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by qballrail In reply to Network not sharing thoug ...

It is possible that NetBEUI is corrupt on your desktop PC, and I suggest removing and reinstalling that protocol. I had a similar issue with my setup and doing just that resolved my access issues.
Sorry for not being clear, but you should have a Startup folder if you go start> programs, it is located in that main group unless it has been removed.

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