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non system disk while up dating bios..........help

By heather.smith ·
I have an old gateway that I am trying to upgrade the hard drive from an 80gb to a 500gb this system has been fairly reliable for what it is used for, but the hd is going so got to upgrade. this of course requires an up grade on my bios............this is where the problem is. this is a 2001 system I went to the Gateway site found the correct upgrade for my system. folowed the directions in the download opened the file and copyied the contents to a ibm formated floppy. shut down the system, already had the floppy in the drive, restarted the system, and all i get is non system disk remove disk hit any key to continue. I have the system set to boot first from the floppy. i did try to install the new drive with a clean new copy of windows xp but without the upgrade, it fails about half way through the install. maybe i'm on the wrong track any sugestions would be greatly appreciated!!!

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Did you format the floppy AS a boot disk?

by ThumbsUp2 In reply to non system disk while up ...

You need to first format the floppy as a system boot disk, then copy your BIOS flash stuff to it.

However, are you sure you're following the directions properly? Usually, BIOS flash programs that you download are an EXE which you execute to produce the bootable floppy for you.

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The instructions and file list

by heather.smith In reply to Did you format the floppy ...

So are you saying that I need to format the floopy as MS-Dos and then put the upgrade files on that floppy? because if I just boot with the dos disk I will go to "A" prompt and then what?? If I copy the files to the Dos formated disk there will be at least two files with the same name....

here is a list of files that came with the download also included the read me.

autoexec.bat, beep.com bios.rec, command.com, iflash.exe, io.sys, msdos.sys, p13-0046.bbo, p13-0046.bi1, p13-0046.bi2, p13-0046.bi3, p13-0046.bi4, p13-0046.bi5, p13-0046.bio, p13-0046.sbb, p13-0046.sig

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Monterrey Motherboard BIOS
P13
All Operating Systems
7511942
9/14/01
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Table of Contents
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Overview
Identification
Installation
Troubleshooting
Reason for Update
Applicable Part Numbers
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Overview

This is a P13 BIOS for the Monterrey motherboard.


Identification

To confirm that this is the correct BIOS update for your motherboard, follow these steps:

If the computer is turned off:

1. Turn on the computer, and press the F1 key in one-second intervals. If you perform this step correctly, you see the BIOS Setup Utiliy menu. If Windows loads normally, repeat this step.

2. In the BIOS Setup Utility, on the Main tab, look at the bottom of the screen for the current BIOS version. The version needs to be GB85010A.15A.00xx.Pxx (where xx is the current revision number).

3. If BIOS GB85010A.15A.00xx.Pxx is displayed, you have the correct BIOS update. Press F10 to exit the BIOS Setup Utility.


If the computer is turned on and in Windows:

1. From the Start menu, click Shut Down, and then select the option to restart the computer.

2. As soon as the computer restarts, press the F1 key in one-second intervals. If you perform this step correctly, you see the BIOS Setup Utiliy menu. If Windows loads normally, repeat this step.

3. In the BIOS Setup Utility, on the Main tab, look at the bottom of the screen for the current BIOS version. The version needs to be GB85010A.15A.00xx.Pxx (where xx is the current revision number).

4. If BIOS GB85010A.15A.00xx.Pxx is displayed, you have the correct BIOS update. Press F10 to exit the BIOS Setup Utility.


Installation

Preparing your computer

Before updating your computer's BIOS, enter the current BIOS Setup Utility, and then write down each of the current settings in the event that this information is needed again after the upgrade.


Copying the files

1. On your screen, double-click the BIOS update that you have downloaded. The files self-extract and copy into folder C:\Cabs\7511942.

2. On your screen, double-click the My Computer icon.

3. In the My Computer window, double-click C:, and then double-click the Cabs folder. If you do not see any files, click View the entire contents of the drive.

4. In the Cabs folder, double-click the 7511942 folder.

5. In the 7511942 folder, from the Edit menu, click Select All.

6. In the 7511942 folder, from the Edit menu, click Copy.

7. Quit all open programs, and close all open windows.

8. Insert a formatted, blank floppy disk in the floppy disk drive.

9. On your screen, double-click the My Computer icon.

10. In the My Computer window, double-click A:

11. In the A: folder, from the Edit menu, click Paste.


Performing the update

1. Restart the computer with the floppy disk in the floppy disk drive. From the Start menu, click Shut Down, and then select the option to restart the computer.

2. On the Intel Flash Memory update utility screen, press the ENTER key.

3. On the Main Menu screen, Update Flash memory area from a file is selected. Press ENTER.

4. On the Flash area screen, Update System BIOS is selected. Press ENTER.

5. On the Enter Path\Filename screen, press the DOWN ARROW key once to select P13-0046.BIO, and then press ENTER.

6. On the Confirm BIOS version information screen, select To continue with programming, and then press ENTER.

7. The message, "BIOS update is now in progress don't press any key or turn off the system at this time," appears.

8. On the Reboot warning screen, the message Eject disk appears. Remove the disk from the floppy disk drive, and then press ENTER.

9. When the computer restarts, you may receive a BIOS configuration message. Press F1 to enter the BIOS Setup Utility.

10. In the BIOS Setup Utility, press F10, and then press ENTER to save and exit.


Troubleshooting

If the driver does not install, download the file again, and then follow the steps given for installation.


Reason for Update

Option to enable or disable the ISA Enable Bit on PCI bridges.
Adds D-stepping core support for latest generation processors.
Adds WFM 2.0 Remote Lockout support.
Adds support for the Security Freeze Lock command on resume from S3 to IDE devices that support the Security feature set.
Adds workaround for Windows 98 SE issue where ATAPI devices are not reprogrammed on resume from Suspend-to-RAM (S3).
Implements Force Network Boot feature that allows users to force the computer to start to network by pressing a hot key.
Fixes issue where the computer was always reporting 80-conductor IDE cable type (regardless of actual cable type) when certain ATAPI devices were connected as the slave device on an IDE channel.
Adds support for PCI IDE Bus Mastering (DMA) for BIOS INT 13h hard disk reads and writes on IDE devices that support IDE Bus Mastering.
Adds Mode 5 (UDMA/100) option to the IDE UDMA Mode.
Corrects functionality of IDE PIO Mode.
Fixes issue where BIOS was incorrectly reporting UDMA modes on IDE devices that do not support UDMA.
Sets ISA ENABLE bits on PCI bridges that do not have VGA behind them.
Adds support for doing 32-bit IDE PIO mode data transfers inside BIOS INT 13h.
Fixes issue where ATAPI Removable Devices that support UDMA modes were not getting programmed for UDMA mode.
Updates the display of the processor BIOS update information to account for the new naming convention.
Adds the display of UDMA mode for ARMD.
Sets Wake on Modem Ring default to Power On.
Fixes an issue where the Fault Tolerant Boot Block Test would fail and not be able to boot if ECC was enabled during the test.
Fixes the incorrect display of hard disk drive capacity for larger hard disk drives.


Applicable Part Numbers:

2517170, 2517168, 2517169, 2510651, 2510652, 2512450, 2512451, 2513567, 2513568, 2513569, 2513603, 2513604, 2513605, 2513606, 2513793, 2513794, 2513796, 2514223, 2514224, 2514858, 2514602,
2515128, 2512808, 2514225, 2514601, 2514603, 2514604, 2514605,
2514606, 2516096, 2516097, 2516098, 2516099

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No that is correct

by OH Smeg In reply to The instructions and file ...

At the A: Prompt you insert the Floppy with the Utility and Data normally a BIN file and type in the name of the Flash Utility then press Enter. This will start the Flash Utility running and then you will be asked to enter the Data File and then if you want to save to old BIOS. You will be prompted for a name of the old BIOS and it will be written to the Floppy under that name.

Just do not enable Write Protection on the floppy or this process will not work. You also need to read the Warning on Flashing the BIOS as if you do it wrong the system will no longer run and you will then need to either replace the BIOS Chip with a new one or if the IC is soldered to the M'Board you'll need to replace the M'Board or take it to a company who can reprogram a BIOS Chip while On Board without the M'Board running. Both will be roughly the same price if you can shop around.

To try to make this easier what M'Board are you using. If you post that I will tell you step by step what is required but you basically need to look at the contents of the Floppy the .EXE File is the Flash Utility which you need to type the name of then press Enter and the .BIN File is the actual New BIOS which gets written to the CMOS Integrated Circuit.

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m'board

by heather.smith In reply to No that is correct

M'board is Intel (Monterrey) Motherboard - 2-GHz [Part #2512808

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re: the instructions

by ThumbsUp2 In reply to The instructions and file ...

So are you saying that I need to format the floopy as MS-Dos and then put the upgrade files on that floppy?

Yes, but make sure you use the formating option to copy system files to the floppy (make it bootable).


because if I just boot with the dos disk I will go to "A" prompt and then what??

No, you will not just go to the "A" prompt. The files you copy to the floppy will replace any files already there. Per the instructions, the the Intel Flash Memory update utility will start. You won't even see the "A" prompt. Obviously, the autoexec.bat file that you downloaded has some instructions in it telling the system to start the iflash.exe program.


If I copy the files to the Dos formated disk there will be at least two files with the same name....

here is a list of files that came with the download also included the read me.

autoexec.bat, beep.com, bios.rec, command.com, iflash.exe, io.sys, msdos.sys, p13-0046.bbo, p13-0046.bi1, p13-0046.bi2, p13-0046.bi3, p13-0046.bi4, p13-0046.bi5, p13-0046.bio, p13-0046.sbb, p13-0046.sig


Nowhere in that list of files are there any files with the same name. The extensions are all different making them unique. Remember, when you copy these files to the floppy, they will replace any files already on the floppy which have the same names (autoexec.bat, command.com, io.sys, msdos.sys).

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same name files

by heather.smith In reply to re: the instructions

I wasn't clear, sorry the duplicates would be from the DOS startup files on the floppy. I tried it at work on a floppy and io.sys and a couple of others came up as duplicates. so just let them over write with the new ones?

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Can't "copy" the boot files like that.

by 1bn0 In reply to same name files

It sounds like you are copying the contents of a "bootable" disk with all of the bios utilites over to a formated disk. I did read the instructions and , yes that is what they told you to do.

You CANNOT copy IO.SYS and MSDOS.SYS. On a boot floppy these files sit in pre-determined physical sectors. The files are only properly stored during a format or by using the SYS.COM utility. (sys.com copies the boot files to the proper sectors on the floppy disk.)

Try creating the boot disk again. WHen you copy the utility files to the bootable disk answer "NO" when asked to replace IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM.

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With most DOS BIOS Flash Utilities

by OH Smeg In reply to non system disk while up ...

You need to insert a Boot Disc first to start DOS up then when the System is running you remove the Floppy insert the BIOS Utility and Data File and run the Utility.

If you try to run off the Utility it will not load as this is only the Utility not any form of OS.

I also doubt that a 2001 System will support a 500 GIG HDD either no matter how much you Flash the BIOS as it's way too big and will not be recognized by the BIOS natively. You can use something like Seagate's Disc Wizard to fool the BIOS into reading & Mapping a 500 GIG HDD maybe but this isn't the most reliable way to do things.

IDE HDD's can not just be inserted as they are not correctly Mapped by the BIOS in many cases if this is a Desktop unit you need to fit a PCI to IDE Controller Card that can support a 500 GIG HDD. If it is a NB you need to fit this 500 GIG Drive to a USB Enclosure and fit a HDD of the Upper Limit Size to the NB.

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At the "A" prompt I do what?

by heather.smith In reply to With most DOS BIOS Flash ...

So if I boot with the DOS disk I get to a "A" prompt, What comand and file would I be calling up from the upgrade disk to make it run? I posted a list of files that came with the upgrade. I know this seems so stupid but...............

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At the A: Prompt

by OH Smeg In reply to At the "A" prompt I do wh ...

Type in DIR/W and then press Enter. You will be shown the contents of the Floppy and there should be 2 files on it a .EXE and normally a .Bin file the .EXE is the Flash Utility and the Bin File is the new BIOS Data. Write down both names on a piece of paper and then enter the Flash Utility name so if it is AFlash.exe you would type in aflash and then press enter. You will then be presented with another screen asking you to provide the Data File so you need to type this in so if the Data File was called 123.bin you would type in 1234.bin and press enter. You should then be presented with another screen asking you to enter a name for the Old BIOS to save it here you need to enter the same file format as the Data File so here you can use old.bin and press enter. This will start the process running and start off by saving a copy of the Old BIOS Data to the Floppy in a file called Old.Bin.

When this finishes the system will start writing the New BIOS Data to the Integrated Circuit. It is at this point that it is very important that you do not lose power as if you do the M'Board will not work again well at least it will not start up again as the BIOS will no longer be present. If that happens you need to either replace the BIOS IC or the M'Board depending on if the BIOS IC is soldered tot he M'Board or is in a socket.

You should read the Warning Message about Flashing the BIOS to know what can happen if things go wrong.

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