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  • June 3, 2000 at 4:22 pm #2073836

    NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

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    by mjohnson · about 24 years, 7 months ago

    I have just set up a peer to peer network with 4 pcs running NT workstation, and I can’t get it to work. I have installed TCP/IP and I have removed Server Services and disabled NetLogon, and Computer Browser, and yet I still have no look, is there anything special I need to installed. I am using NT 4.0 with SP 6, should I install Option Pack? can some one help.
    Also I have a 3Com OfficeConnect LanModem on the network, could this be a problem?

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    • June 3, 2000 at 4:42 pm #3893909

      NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

      by dle · about 24 years, 7 months ago

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      Definitely should not disable Server service and the NetLogon service. You need those services to provide network resources and to logon.

      Option Pack is only needed if you plan to set up a Web server or FTP server.

      Getting TCP/IP working properly requires the server and all clients to have correct IP addressing scheme. Try something like 192.168.1.x for the IP address, substitute the x with a number between 1 and 254. All should have subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 That should work correctly. You can test by using the ping command.
      If you still have trouble with IP, use a simple protocol such as NetBEUI instead.

      Also, make sure all stations are in the same workgroup.

    • June 3, 2000 at 5:16 pm #3893907

      NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

      by avachon · about 24 years, 7 months ago

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      To add to respondent #1:If you do not intend to create subnets and do routing there is no reason to use tcp/ip (adds overhead). Netbeui is fast, stable, but non-routable. If you do stay with tcp/ip you will need your ip address (on each machine – inthe x place make each number different)and the same subnet mask for each machine (255.255.255.0). Right click on network neighborhood |properties and check that identification tab. As noted, make sure each machine is in a workgroup and the workgroupname is the same on each machine. You will need your browser services for the machines to find each other. 3 com office connect comes with diagnostics so you can do a send/echo between 2 machines to check connectivity. It will alert you if there is a problem (e.g., an IRQ conflict). If tcp/ip is used and set up correctly, check cabling and run 3com’s diagnostic test (there should be a 3com icon in your systray that when you double-click it it warns you that running diagnostics disconnects you from the network. Clic

    • June 3, 2000 at 5:17 pm #3893906

      NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

      by inspectorclave · about 24 years, 7 months ago

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      If you are running a peer-to-peer network, use NetBEUI instead of TCP/IP. If you are accessing the internet and are using one of the PC’s as a router, bind NetBEUI to the NIC that connects to your internal network and bind TCP/IP to the NIC connecting you to the internet. This will also add a bit of security to your network from the internet, as you will be running a different protocol internally.

    • June 3, 2000 at 5:20 pm #3893904

      NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

      by avachon · about 24 years, 7 months ago

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      (got cutoff) click okay and then run the test (you can do a diagnostic on the machine the nic card is on and then an echo test to check conectivity between two machines). If you do run into an IRQ conflict (I think 3com defaults to IRQ 5), you can check available IRQ’s in nt diagnostics under administrative tools. Hope this helps. Good luck.

    • June 3, 2000 at 6:06 pm #3893899

      NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

      by lance2@techsupport · about 24 years, 7 months ago

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      All of the previous answers give good advice.

      You must also be sure that each machine has a unique “Computer Name”.

      If you use the same name or IP address for two or more PCs, only the first will be able to access the network (maybe).

      Unless you have a good reason to use TCP/IP, you are probably better off with Netbeui as explained earlier.

    • June 3, 2000 at 9:03 pm #3893887

      NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

      by guy · about 24 years, 7 months ago

      In reply to NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

      I would be ruthless and start again!
      Just install NT Workstation, and make sure that you add the NetBEUI protocol. This is because you do need to configure it – its self tuning, and self configuring. Give each machine a unique name, and put them in the same workgroup e.g. CRIDECENTRE. Do not remove any services, they all have a purpose.

    • June 4, 2000 at 8:27 pm #3893754

      NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

      by jun1cez1 · about 24 years, 7 months ago

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      mjohnson,

      Go back to all of your workstations and re-enable serever services and netlogon, they do serve purposes in the network. The TCP/IP, you need that protocol if the network is connected to the internet but for a peer-to-peer Microsoft network, all you need is Netbeui.
      I strongly suggest that you back in the control panel and network and re-check the services, re-install or re-enable what you had disabled and it may be necessary for you to repeat the process.
      Regarding the SP6, depending on what you have applicationwise, I suggest that upgrade to SP6a since SP6 is too buggy and you’ll find all the documentations in the Microsoft’s Homepage or Knowledge Base.
      The Option Pack is for Internet or IIS and Transaction related services, install them if you think that you really need them.
      The LAN modem, if its configured correctly, IRQ setting, connection type, etc,etc, you should have no problem at all.
      Here’s a little ckecklist of what you should chck:
      Computer name
      Workgroup name
      Network serv

    • June 4, 2000 at 8:27 pm #3893753

      NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

      by jun1cez1 · about 24 years, 7 months ago

      In reply to NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

      mjohnson,

      Go back to all of your workstations and re-enable serever services and netlogon, they do serve purposes in the network. The TCP/IP, you need that protocol if the network is connected to the internet but for a peer-to-peer Microsoft network, all you need is Netbeui.
      I strongly suggest that you back in the control panel and network and re-check the services, re-install or re-enable what you had disabled and it may be necessary for you to repeat the process.
      Regarding the SP6, depending on what you have applicationwise, I suggest that upgrade to SP6a since SP6 is too buggy and you’ll find all the documentations in the Microsoft’s Homepage or Knowledge Base.
      The Option Pack is for Internet or IIS and Transaction related services, install them if you think that you really need them.
      The LAN modem, if its configured correctly, IRQ setting, connection type, etc,etc, you should have no problem at all.
      Here’s a little ckecklist of what you should chck:
      Computer name
      Workgroup name
      Network serv

    • June 5, 2000 at 12:36 am #3893728

      NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

      by chrisms · about 24 years, 7 months ago

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      I would definantly reinstall Server Services & NetLogon. Option Pack on a peer to peer network is not neceesarry. Also check your I.P. addresses as stated by other people earlier. If this still does not work, I would be inclined to connect just 2computers together and see if they work. If not I would suggest checking your Cards & Hub, assuming you are using these. It might even be a cable problem.

    • June 5, 2000 at 3:03 am #3894387

      NT Workstation Peer-To-Peer Network

      by Anonymous · about 24 years, 7 months ago

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      What does that mean, “still have no look”?

      1.) No need to remove server service and netlogo

      2.) All PCs must be members of the same workgroup.

      3.) TCP/IP addresses, subnets and gateways address should be configured correctly: Same subnetand gateway addresses, with unique IP addresses.

      4.) If u have a 3COM lanmodem, there is no problem using it as a hub/Modem.

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