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I would like to install WIN98 and WIN2000
ON THE SAME HARD DRIVE. I was told I could install
WIN2000 using the NTFS file system. What other file system is there and how would you choose either one when you are using the FDISK command? Thanks.
by amr_ahmed40
Hi,
You definetely can install both on the same disk, but each must go into an individual partition. When you start, first use FDISK to partition your drive as you want. Then, boot from a startup disk and format the partitions.
DO NOT USE A STARTUP DISK CREATED FROM WIN MILLENIUM.
After you format the partitions, go ahead and install WIN98 FIRST, onto the C drive.
Once you've done that, install WIN2000 to the next partition. You will be given the option from within the WIN2000 installation to format the partition you're going to install WIN2000 on using NTFS.
Once you have installed WIN2000, reboot and you will be presented with a menu asking which system you want to start.
The trick is to install the older operating system first.
The partition you installed WIN2000 on will not be visible from your WIN98 installation, but the WIN98 partition will be visible from the WIN2000 installation.
Good Luck
by galehickey2
If you are going to install win98, i suggest you choose the FAT32 file system. The other file system aside from fat32 and ntfs is the FAT file system which is used in older win95 down to DOS 6.22. with a FAT32 file system on both the win98 and windows 2k partition, you can access data from either partition with either OS. ntfs partition on the other hand can be read only by windows 2000.
BTW, you do not choose the partition using the FDISK command. in windows 2000, you do it with format /fs:filesystem command or convert /fs:ntfs (if you have fat32 system)
hope this helps.
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by food537
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Win98 does NOT support NTFS. NTFS is not an "extension" of FAT.
I would personally suggest FAT32 for both partitions. A good tool to help you would be Ranish Partition Manager (Free), or Paragon Partition Manager (Shareware). Using FDisk (as statedbefore, fdisk will not format your partitions to FAT, NTFS etc.) and Format can become difficult. You can use either tool to install a boot manager, this will help if your boot code gets mashed. Otherwise, installing Win98 first, then Win2k will help preserve your ability to dual boot.
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by fenaikh
Hi
1- A partition is a physical division of a hrad disk and a hard disk could be divide into one primary partition or a primary partition and many secondry partition with limitions in sizes by a file system . A partition is then could be divided into legical drives.The primary partition contains the necessary files for a system to boot in case of one operating system or a boot manager or boot loader in multi operating system.In order for a partition to boot it should be active and usuallyhas the drive letter C:. FDISK creates Partitions and there are many third party utilities which has more functions than fdisk such as changing the size of a partion and convert a partition to a deffrent file system with no disruption of OS. One ofthem is partition magic. In the otherhand some OSes Do there Prtioning such as netware and Unix. If you want more than an operating system you need separate partitions for them. Windows 9x and DOS/Windows 3.1 can coexist in the same partition.
Agood Strategy plan for partitionning could led to a Reduce Slack and "End of Volume" Space Waste.
2- The file system is the logical constructs that dictate how the space on a disk volume is to be used and the software used to organize and managedata and programs on a hard disk.a file systems has a limitions dependin on the operating system. File systems are operating system independent which means that each operating system cloud have one or more different type of filing system.The most common file system family are the FAT12/16 which are used by dos/win9X VFAT and FAT32 used by win95 osr2 and win 98/SE/ME/2K (File attribute Table) which are used on most PC-platform machines which could be used by many different operating systems in a PC hardware. You could use more than one type of a file system to handle different OSes.The other file systems are NTFS (ver 4) which is used by Windows NT and NTFS (ver 5) used p
by fenaikh
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NTFS (ver 5) used partialy by NT with SP4 and used by Win2K, HPFS used by OS/2, UNIX file systems, Ext2 used by linux , BeFS File System used by BeOS, The Netware File System (NFS) used by Netware,The Network File System (NFS) used by client/server application in network enviroment, WebNFS which is NFS extended to be used with the Internet, Andrew file system (AFS) is a location independent file system that uses a local cache to reduce the workload and increase the performance of a distributed computing environment, and there are amny other File systems in different plat form such as The MAC ,mini computers and mainframe computers file systems.Each Fileing system has it pros and cons and limitions.
It is a matter of planning how you could partition your disk.Most expersts adives in partitioning a small partition for each OS boot, its utilities and administration tools, then a larger partition for data so that in case of reinstall is needed of an os the data is in a different partition which do not need any modefication. The other factor is access of data after a crash in case of no emrgny repare disk (ERD) or a backup using a FAt16 make it easy to access the hard disk.
My suggestion is to partition your disk to:
* 2 GB FAT16 for WIN98 to be install first. Where FAT16 is easy to access and recover from almost any boot disk. DOS and Win9x/SE/ME can not read and write NTFS partitions without a special or a third party utilities and DOS and a version ofwin95 and winNT can not access FAT32.
* Make a partion of 7 GB for Win2k wich buy default it convert it NTFS.
* Make the rest for data.
* Install Win98 first in partition1 then install Win2k in partition2 then use partition3 for data.
by fenaikh
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more info:
pls check if there is more than a page in each referance check for the word "NEXT" or a tiltle for link.
Hard Disk Partitioning, How and Why (or Why Not)
for MS-DOS/Windows PCs
http://oakroadsystems.com/tech/hd-partn.htm
Partitioning, Partition Sizes and Drive Lettering
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/part.htm
Primary, Extended and Logical Partitions
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/structPartitions-c.html
File Systems
http://www.pcmech.com/show/harddrive/53/
Overview of FAT, HPFS, and NTFS File Systems
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q100108
Maximum Partition Size Using FAT16 File System
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q118335
PC Operating System and File System Cross-Reference
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/cross.htm
FAT Sizes: FAT12, FAT16 and FAT32
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/part.htm
NTFS Implementation Considerations
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/ntfs/impl-i.htm
NTFS Partitioning Strategies
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/ntfs/implPart-c.html
NTFS Hardware and Operating System Compatibility
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/ntfs/implCompat-c.html
Dual booting Windows 9x/Millennium and Windows 2000
http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/win2kdualboot/
Guru3d’s Win9x/Win2k Dual-Boot Guide
http://www.guru3d.com/tech/dualboot/index1.shtml
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Good luck
Mohamed
by fenaikh
There are third party utilities which can let some OSes to access some file systems not support by it the orginal vendor.
Such as NTFSDOS by system internal which let you access NTFS from DOS.
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