Obama proposes world welfare program at US tax payers expense

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Yet another source

by jdclyde · 13 years ago In reply to Obama proposes world welf ...

http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_SN_2433.html

After several google searches, the information seems very consistent.

If the "War on Poverty" has been such a miserable failure in the US, what makes Obama think world welfare will life people up any more than local welfare did?

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Wow

by The Scummy One · 13 years ago In reply to Yet another source

if this is what Obama will be like when\if elected, I am all for a revolution!

We need to work on the American Infrastructure first and foremost. We need to stop spending and start paying down our debt. We need to stop printing excess money so that 'the books' look good, and actually make our economy stronger.

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Remember that all of the candidates

by Dumphrey · 13 years ago In reply to Wow

are basically the same. Same social class, same education levels, same number of martinis for lunch, same total lack of connection with the real world of the average American.
No matter what they do to health care, it will not effect them. No matter how they cut SS, it will not effect them. No matter how much they raise taxes, it will not effect them, they can always give themselves raises....
They have no incentive to actually do any good. So they tell us what they think we want to hear, and distance themselves from any accountability as best they can.
My cynical question is: What company/person/organization stands to make a mint in delivering "supplies" to third world countries to alleviate poverty? Because these are the people that purchased Obama's votes.

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It is all about the ideas

by jdclyde · 13 years ago In reply to Remember that all of the ...

and here are some people that like Obamas ideas:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/05/al_jazeera_reports_palestinian.html

People in Palestine like the change Obama will make in the US? Scary thought.

Have heard this from a few different sources so far.

And yes, the ONLY way medical/SS will ever get "fixed" is if we remove all government workers from the cake walk and put them into the same boat as everyone else. Once it affect THEM, instead of just being another stump issue to pretend to care about, we would see some progress.

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The fact is

by NickNielsen · 13 years ago In reply to It is all about the ideas

The great majority of government workers are now covered by Social Security. This includes the military (since 1957), all federal workers hired after 1984 including Congress, and 75% of state and local workers. http://tinyurl.com/4st64y
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/pensions.asp

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But it's the stated US Policy "promote the reduction of global poverty"

by robo_dev · 13 years ago In reply to Obama proposes world welf ...

This bill is just a tool to further this stated policy.

Here's a civics lesson:

The officially stated goals of the foreign policy of the United States are:

"to create a more secure, democratic, and prosperous world for the benefit of the American people and the international community".

The CIA State Failure Task Force, which has been in operation almost a decade, has shown in a number of studies that when economies don?t progress and when disease is rampant, you get the failure of states.

This becomes the breeding ground in which terrorism, criminality, drug trafficking, money laundering, weapons proliferation, mass migration movements, refugee movements, displacement of populations, can all take hold.

Look at Darfur, Nigeria, and those pirates from Somalia who attack every ship that goes near that country. Look at countries like Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and similar states.

We cannot fight the war on terror without also fighting the war on global poverty that provides the breeding ground for the ills that globalization transmits throughout the world.

The Global Poverty Act is a tool to further the stated foreign policy goals of the US.

It's not some hair-brained scheme that Mr. Obama cooked up....the Millenium Development Goals were put together in 2002.

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Well Said

by ProtiusX · 13 years ago In reply to But it's the stated US Po ...

However,
One must ask ones self whether these stated goals are indeed in the best interests of our country. I tend to be an isolationist when we spend trillions of dollars trying to make the world a better place and are repaid with hatred, discrimination and attack.

The "New World Order" is not a new concept and has been slowly growing into a truism since George the first referred to it back in the late 80's.

Why is it that the left will constantly say that we are not the "world police" and have no right to intervene in the affairs of other countries but will then, out of the other side of their mouths, want to offer up the wealth of the American taxpayer to every indigent around the world?

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Because they're not the 2% who have gotten richer from George W. Bush.

by $$$$$$$$$$ · 13 years ago In reply to Well Said

Why is it that the left will constantly say that we are not the "world police" and have no right to intervene in the affairs of other countries but will then, out of the other side of their mouths, want to offer up the wealth of the American taxpayer to every indigent around the world?

And, because I'd prefer, as long as my money is part of a wealth redistribution scheme, that it is wasted on inefficient food programmes than on Bechtel, Raytheon, Halliburton, Kellogg/Brown/Root & Blackwater.

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Isolationists = Ignorance

by Dr_Zinj · 13 years ago In reply to Well Said

The problem with isolationism in the U.S. is that it ignores where our energy, foods, raw strategic materials, and manufactured come from. You can't be an isolationist if you keep buying stuff from foreign countries. And you can't buy stuff from foreign countries without creating and maintaining a world environment condusive to world trade.

If you're an isolationist, I double dog dare you to go through your house and remove EVERYTHING that was made in a foreign country. Every appliance, every thing written by a non-american, everything that contains parts made or written by foreigners. Everything that exists because it was invented by a foreigner. By the time you're through, you're house will be damn near empty, and probably structurally unsound too.

You want to go pure American, you're going to have to create an environment that will make it cost effective for americans to produce all those things we currently take for granted that come from other countries. And the first thing that you're going to have to replace is fossil fuels.

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political isolatioist vs closing the countries borders

by jdclyde · 13 years ago In reply to Isolationists = Ignorance

We should stay out of the world affairs of other nations. No more being the worlds police, let the UN/Nato do that.

No more the worlds welfare office, again, give them the number for the UN/Nato/red cross.

only allow trade with countries that are willing to have an even trade agreement. if they overly tax our goods being brought in, then you penalize them in return.

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