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On this President's Day - Which one(s) are among your favorite.....

By maxwell edison ·
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...... and why?

I'll start with Harry S Truman, one of my absolute favorite.


The buck stops here: It was more than a sign on President Truman's desk. The buck really did stop with him. He made no excuses; he made no apologies; he placed no blame.

Give 'em ****, Harry!: Harry Truman said, "I dont give them ****. I just tell the truth and they think its ****.

A Democrat who didn't kiss the butts of the unions. (Compare the threatened railroad strikes of 1948-1950 to what's going on in Wisconsin today.)

The last U.S. President who did not have a college degree. One of the most common, down-home, plain-speaking presidents we've ever had. One who proved that you don't have to be an ivy-league elite to make tough decisions.

I like Harry!

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I'll pick the last conservative...

by AnsuGisalas In reply to On this President's Day - ...

He had a Heart, a Brain and Courage... without even a yellow brick road or a wizard.

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by Tigger_Two In reply to On this President's Day - ...

Harry was one of my Dad's favorites as well. You capture the reason perfectly. Truman was pretty no-nonsense in his approach to virtually everything while maintaining his humility. The haberdasher from Missouri didn't seem to feel a need to put on airs.

It was Truman who made the final decision to use the bomb in Japan. Can't have been an easy call.

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by john.a.wills In reply to On this President's Day - ...

He smashed the Kremlin Empire. I don't like that he dropped the IBM case, and I wish he had had a clearer vision of world governance, but saying truth to the evil empire was the right thing to do (although it made me a little queasy at the time): it really was an evil empire. Now,can we have a president who speaks truth to Planned Parenthood, the WZO/AIPAC set-up and perhaps a few others?

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Don't forget

by NickNielsen In reply to Reagan

ADM and the corporate welfare queens...

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I suspect loyalty lingers...

by AnsuGisalas In reply to Don't forget

on account of Iran-contra and sending Osama to Afghanistan... One small step for Nuke/Nurse Ronnie, one giant leap for islamist expansionism!

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My personal feelings on the matter

by NickNielsen In reply to I suspect loyalty lingers ...

When the Saudis started giving us a hard time immediately after the first Gulf War, we should have moved everything the Kuwaitis, Qataris, and Bahrainis would accept to those countries, then taken our ball from Saudi Arabia and gone home.

Since bin Laden's initial focus with al Qaida was on the infidels being allowed on in the same country as Mecca and Medina, it might have taken the wind out of the al Qaida sails for a good long time. But, they have some great propogandists working for them, so it may have only been a year or two.

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Reagan didn't smash or bankrupt Russia; he killed it with sweetness

by DelbertPGH In reply to Reagan

Reagan's arms buildup played to both nations' strengths. The Soviet system was best at running a national emergency state, where inefficiencies, corruption, and failure could all be ignored in favor of the current peril. Reagan had a dread of nuclear weapons, and proposed to Gorbachev enormous disarmament measures and sharing of the "star wars" anti-missile technology that the U.S. was then threatening to develop. It was as if a Miss America contestant with a naive dream about world peace were speaking through the mouth of the President of the United States. Reagan really meant it, and managed to convince the Soviet leadership that he meant it. When the sense of national peril eased of, and as Gorbachev loosened the reins on his command-driven country, instead of healing itself it simply fell apart.

I otherwise consider Reagan a trickster, a buffoon, and a tool of the wealthy financial classes, who turned the country backward from prosperity and social democracy. However, I do credit him with saving the world from the most inhuman ideology since the invention of the nation-state, and the U.S. from what seemed like an inevitable war of nuclear annihilation against Russia.

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Now that I play poker

by JamesRL In reply to Reagan didn't smash or ba ...

I see what Reagan did as similar to a big chip bully.

Reagan knew that the USSR economy was in crisis. He knew that the Afghan war wasn't popular with many in Russia. He knew that they didn't have enough gas for their fighter pilots to get enough time in to maintain readiness. He knew, if he gave it a nudge, it might all fall down.

So Star Wars defence systems were a huge overbet. In order to call it, the Soviets had to see if they could afford it, and clearly they could not. Gorbachov was clearly a realist and he had I think the harder task, to convince the rest of the party that it was better to fold than to try and match US spending on the next big initiative. They also looked at what had been happening in Poland, and saw that it might spread.

In the end, the Soviets folded. Like the British empire, they saw it was cheaper to have their former states as trading partners than economic dependents.

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by puppybreath In reply to On this President's Day - ...

He's the only President without a scandal or controversy during his term. ;-)

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Which one?

by maxwell edison In reply to Harrison

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