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Operating System XYZ is immune to viruses and malware

By Gate keeper ·
I have come across this sentiment too many times to count ..but coming from an End-user I just smile condescdingly and say 'yeah,ok' but for some reason I got pissef off when i hear this ignorant declaration from a techi !

I'm sure we have all heard such grand declarations as 'Macs dont need spyware or malwaure removers' or 'they dont get infected by viruses' ditto for linux .. aside from the branding they are all essentially vulnerable and yes, some more than others but, to claim immunity is ridiculous.

two things should not be confused there have been more exploits for OS ABC then for XYZ which is not the issue and can be explained away by social and econimc incentives and factors.

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No doubt someone at work made the comment?

by Jaqui In reply to Operating System XYZ is i ...

I recently poked all the Anti-Virus companies I could for NOT having their products available for ALL operating systems, since even if the os in question is fairly well patched and not vulnerable, most likely the user will be sending files to someone who would be vulnerable, and without the tools can't make sure there is no malwware embedded in the file.

AVG was the only one that rspoded, with a link to their AVG Professional for Linux, Mac and Unix.

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New ClamAV updates just came out

by Neon Samurai In reply to No doubt someone at work ...

Ok, probably a week or so back since the just hit the Mandriva repositories for 2007 in the last few days. Same reasoning though; keeps the machines I interact with safer.

Good on AVG for providing cross platform support too.

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by Jaqui In reply to New ClamAV updates just c ...

you use clam?

when I heard it was only 58% effective I gave up on it.

I know Symantec also has linux version, corporate ymantec antivirus for servers, as is avg.

they really do need a home user version for linux though.

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by jdclyde In reply to really?

Gawd, don't unleash that bloated crap (symantec) on the linux world!

What did they ever do to harm you? :0

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by Jaqui In reply to NOOOOOOOOOOO!

quality of product that I didn't write is not my problem

I just think that all av companies should have linux, mac, bsd versions of their products to really stop the crap from spreading.

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I think all software companies should be crossplatform

by Neon Samurai In reply to hey

.. not just AV though especially AV developers. At
minimum, it would open up the potential customer base
of the software developers. I know, it's never going to

Seems I need to go take a glance at Clam's detection stats
versus the other contenders. In this case; it was in the
repository so I went with it. The plugin to most everything
else is so handy though; my Samba, email and most
anything else moving data can tap Clam for a scan in

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p Ha! :^0

by seanferd In reply to NOOOOOOOOOOO!

God help us all.

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Allowing others to effect your mood, tisk tisk....

by jdclyde In reply to Operating System XYZ is i ...

You have started out with name calling and belittling, and then move on to allowing these stated inferior humans to effect your mood.

If you are so superior, they why give them the ability to control you so?

We have all heard people in life say things that are factually inaccurate, whether the speaker believes it or not. Why do you care so much if a Mac user has a blind spot? Sit back and let history decide when/if they get their system toasted. A simple "I am glad you are happy with your decision" is all that is needed, and then let it go. Oh sure, because I am so childish, I can not help myself from adding in "and to think I missed the sale at Toys-R-Us, and could have had a MAC too.....", but that is just me.

Social engineering will open up exploits more and more, regardless of if the OS is secure or not. The more people start using an OS, the higher the chances a DUMB person will use it.

The single worst part of your post, Kaynaan, is when you use the "and factors" as a cop out for either not wanting to go into the issues, or you just don't know what they are.

MS has made ease-of-use a higher priority than security, and that is the reason they are more at risk, AND why they are the most used DESKTOP OS, for now.

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by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to Allowing others to effect ...

The single worst part of the post is "I just smile condescdingly".
And it ain't the typo that's the big problem.

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I do not nit-pick typos

by jdclyde In reply to Dicker...

except for on someone that is nit-picking them on someone else, or the typo is funny. B-)

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