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By dave.osborne ·
A friend is putting together a PC and would like to know/get opinions on the following hardware. If you have dealt with any of the following, input would be appreciated. If you have suggestions for similiar hardware in the same price range, feel free to post those too.

1) AMD Athlon XP ThoroughBred 2400+ 2.0GHz Socket A Microprocessor, OEM ... might be getting a 2600+ before it's said and done

2) Black Edition: SOYO SY-KT400 DRAGON Ultra Socket A ATX Motherboard, KT400 Chipset based, DDR400/333, AGP 8X, Audio, RAID, LAN, USB2.0 & ATA133

3) Samsung DDR 400MHz 512MB (PC 3200) 184Pin Computer System Memory Module, Non-ECC, OEM

4) 120GB WD HD spec. ed. (8 MB cache)

5) Nvidia Geforce2 MX400 64MB SDRAM 4X AGP TV Out

Thesystem will have the HD as IDE 0 master along with a CDRW and CDrom in the setup. The monitor will be a 19" CRT.

The PC will be used for both gaming and apps, around 70/30 split.

All answers with valid/relevant input will be accepted.

Thanks
-Dave

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by Gr@ndcri In reply to Opinions on hardware for ...

1-CPU is perfect but for now 2700+ is a better choice Price/quality.

2- I don't know very much Soyo but as I know you can have the same product at Asus with better quality. The only advantage for Soyo is the price.

3-I looks some benchmark andDDR333 is a better choice. (Source Tom's Hardware)<<If only DDR333 is going to be used, then the Asus board, the Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra and the MSI KT4 Ultra are the best choices. With DDR400, the top performers are Asus (A7V8X), Gigabyte (GA-7VAXP), and, in many benchmarks, QDI (KuDoZ 7X), as well.>>

4-HD ok be sure it's a 7200rpm

5-Video card I suggest you at least 128m. You should buy an ASUS GF4 V9280 TI4200 AGP 8X 128M that?s because you said that you going to play 70% of your time.I have the card(64m Mx400) you want on my pc and with it I can't have the best of my games (FPS).

The rest is ok but be sure that your 19" accepted a good refresh rate (85).

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by dave.osborne In reply to Opinions on hardware for ...

He has been looking at newer video cards. His thought was to get it running now, can always add a more powerful card later (he has the GF2 card laying around). Thanks, I'll mention the XP2700+

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by Ann777 In reply to Opinions on hardware for ...

1) 2700+ screams.... 2.166 GHz (unaltered)
2) cannot speak to this systemboard... I choose an MSI KT4VL (gave my husband the KT3 that I was using)
3) I purchased Kingston 512 MB Value Ram 333
4) Western Digital is fine (I got a Maxtor 120 GB as the maindrive on this system)
5) GeForce 2 is good

WinXP Pro should be the best OS for the CPU/RAM and gaming.

The only things I would suggest is:
1) possibly an Open GL video card... maybe one of the 64 MB Titanium cards in place of the MX card.
2)Maybe more RAM (since you can only use one 400 speed in most mainboards) and since mixing will reduce the speed if he decides later to add more RAM.

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by Ann777 In reply to Opinions on hardware for ...

Also, make sure the case has excellent cooling capabilities and that the power supply is 400 watts minimum.

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by dave.osborne In reply to Opinions on hardware for ...

Seems like everyone says 333 is better than 400. The case is going to have 4 fans, 2 intake and 2 output along with the PS fan. I believe PS is going to be 420W. Thank you for the extra suggestions.

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by CG IT In reply to Opinions on hardware for ...

Putting a Geforce MX 400 card into a system like you've described is like driving a Lamborgini on the open road at 35 miles an hour. You can get a GF4Ti4600 for about $130.00 [Newegg.com] or you can wait until the GF FX 5600 or 5800 come out, OR youcan get a ATI Radeon 9700, which is comparable to the GF FX 5600/5800. Skimping on the graphics card [unless it's a office workstation or a server which doesn't need "graphics" per se, defeats the purpose of a high end computer for Digital video movies, photos, PC Games and the like.

With the exception of PC Gamer Magazine, Overclocker Cafe, Overclockersclub, Deviant PC are all web sites devoted to PC hardware reviews. Check them out. PC Gamer Magazine has a great PC hardware section for thePC gamer. Check them out as well to see what the latest and greatest is that the gamers are using.

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by CG IT In reply to Opinions on hardware for ...

Note: even though the NVidia Detonator drivers basically cover all lines of graphics cards, not all cards work the same or have the same capabilities. Current trends in the PC Gaming world center around Microsoft's DirectX 9, Pixel/Vertex shaders 2.0, Open GL 1.4. and the old Glide technology developed and patented by 3DFX and revamped by NVidia for use by game developers for cinematic guality graphics. That MX 400 card won't support it. Frame rates on the Mad Onion 3DMark 2003 tests Ragdoll Troll, Mother Nature, Vertex Shader, will hover around 1 to 3 FPS IF! the test software will run it. Go to the Mad Onion web site and download their trail software for graphics card benchmarking. Do some testing on your own, check out the web sites I mentioned above and do some comparisions before you decide what card to buy.

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by CG IT In reply to Opinions on hardware for ...

I run a AMD XP2400 [2ghz] on a MSI K7N2G-L mainboard with 1 GB Kingston PC2100. I use a IBM 80 GB ATA 100 HDD and a Gainward NVidia Geforce FX 5200 128MB graphics card [$100.00 at Newegg.com]. Though the FX 5200 I have is a budget graphics card it does support Open GL 1.4, DirectX 9, Vertex/Pixel Shader 2.0.This card can compete with a Geforce 4 Ti4200 but overall the GF4 cards do out perform this GF FX card. Most PC Gamers are leaning towards the ATI Radeon 9700. Some because NVidia was late in bringing their FX line to the market. Others because they are loyal to ATI.

Note: PC Gamer Magazine Hardware columnist Greg Vedee did a write up on the MX cards about 6 to 7 months ago and recommended that one NOT to think a Geforce 4 MX card is an upgrade from the Geforce 3 Ti series. The GF4 MX card performed below a GF3 Ti 4200 card.

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by dave.osborne In reply to Opinions on hardware for ...

He is just going to use the GF2 card for now and is looking into a better graphics card in the near future. Thank you for your input.

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by csmith In reply to Opinions on hardware for ...

I agree with D.R.
You need a better video card!
For a game PC, the video card is the crucial component.
At the moment the european press really likes the top of the line card from ATI, but this is a very competetive market.
Check it out. It's worth it.
Regards, Chris

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