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We have recently replaced the systems in our Customer Support area with HP Vectra 500Mhz 128 mb ram 13gb Hdd. These machines have onboard sound and video, 3com NIC’s and are connected to a moderatly large NT domain. The users are required to have the following apps running Windows 98SE, Lotus CCmail or Notes, MS Office 97, Acrobat reader, Oracle 7.3.4 Oracle Developer 6.0, Walldata Rumba (TN3270 Emulator) an internal Powerbuilder app that runs on Oracle, a couple of Telnet apps and another couple of internal apps that also run on Oracle. The users also use AOL IM to communicate internally.
When we originally setup the machines, We loaded all of the critical updates from MS, the latest drivers for the devices, the BIOS updates, I set the swap file space to twice the size of the available ram and then cloned the image with Ghost, We have been deploying since Dec.
Here’s the problem, The users are required to have several app running concurrently in order to service the clients. Through the course of the

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I think you’re begging for memory trouble if you really need to run all that on all support staffs PCs ?

Is it impossible to set up a dedicated server that runs the Oracle 7 DB and apps on it ?

You can then just set up a bunch of databases and tables needed for all customers on the dedicated server, everyone can also connect to it and develop on it.

If you need to separate dev and prod databases, set up two dedicated servers ond production and one for testing.

If this is notan option I suggest you upgrade their machines with at least 128Mb more so they get 256.

This is how I would do it.

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NOTHING MORE YOU CAN DO TO COMPENSATE FOR WHAT YOU ARE ASKING THE MACHNIE TO WORK WITH.COULD THE USERS ALL BE SETUP AS A WORK GROUP WITH ACCESS TO ALL APPLICATIONS FROM A CENTRAL LOCATION,BY CONFIGURING THEM TO ACCESS RESOURCES THROUGH THE DOMAIN,WHICH WILL GIVE YOU ROOM TO DEDICATE YOUR SERVER SETUP AND AS ANSWER 1 SUGGESTED THAT CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF UPGRADING MEMORY THE SWAP FILE IS NOT GOING TO HELP PERFORMANCE WITH THE NO.OF APPLICATIONS THAT ARE INSTALLED.

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It looks like you have apps that are causing memory leaks. Your systems probably run ok for awhile and then go downhill from there. You may want to open apps and leave them open. Your users may be opening and closing them as they use them. This will beat up your system, especially if one of them is causing the memory leak. You may want to increase memory or move things to a server like #1 suggested. another option is to purchase actual workstations over desktops. Workstations are built for highend users that are going to beat things up. They are better built to handle the traffic.

Good Luck

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I agree with #1. However, you are really pushing wasting space (and asking for fragmentation problems) with the paging file size that you have. With 128Mb of RAM you only need to specify a paging file size of RAM+12 (or 140Mb).

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Hi. This will seem a little too basic, but what the heck.. HP Computers that are not CTO (Configure to Order)come with a lot of apps starting up and running in the background. Go to MSCONFIG and check the startup tab. You will probably see a lot of stuff that is not required for job function. As technical support for Hewlett Packard I can point out those apps: take the checkmark out of: REMINDER, ATIKEY, LOAD POWER PROFILE (if duplicated), SCHEDULING AGENT, HEWLETT PACKARD PAVILION REGISTRATION, HPSCAN PATCH, HP SIMPLE TRAX. VSHWIN32.EXE (virus scan, McAFEE) tends to duplicate itself. Take out any AOL, COMPUSERVE tray icons too, and any other thing that you won’t use or is not required at startup (you can open later from startmenu) This isjust a very basic idea, try the other stuff too. Hope you solve your problem soon.

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All the answers have merit although the most likely and serious problem is probably the memory bleed. To fix this you will first have to identify the app and hope that there is a fix for it by either the software house or the developer. (Good Luck to you!) There is however an app called MaxMem by AnalogX, (http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/system/maxmem.htm)which constantly flushes your memory effectively stopping the effect that memory bleed has on your system. I am confident that this will get your systems running a lot more smoothly.

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your swap is to be at the low side ram plus 11. then I would recomend setting the high end to 350
also OFFICE 97 gives low mem error. there is an SR2 patch for that. I would e-mail but it is 24 megs.

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the bigest thing i see in memory
problems with win 98 wether it is ((SE))
or just win 98
is that
find fast get started
it will eat memory untill it just about crashes the computer
check your system msconfig
go to run and type in
msconfig
and stop all programs from starting that you dont want to run at start up
like find fast
Jerry M
B.S.I.S
tech support

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# 3& #8 > memory leaks! turn off find fast and take it out of your startup folder on your start menu
# 5 > definitely!!

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