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    Partition unavailable after running Partition Magic 8.0 (error 105)

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    by gdscot ·

    I have a Dell C521 which did run Vista Home Premium OK. Wanted to repartition so I could multiboot for training purposes. Initial setup was the Dell 32MB utility partition, 9GB Recovery Partition (drive D:) and the remainder of the 160GB disk for drive C: with Vista.

    I ran Partition Manager 8.0 which said it had found some errors and offered to fix it which I OK’d. PM then finished loading and gave an error #105 (overlapping partition boundaries) and refused to do anything further with the disk. Rebooting proved the suspicion that Vista partition no longer worked. Boot options can access the utility partition OK as the diagnostics can run. Running a copy of Norton Ghost showed that the Vista partition could still be seen.

    I then booted from a Bart-PE CD. The A43 file system utility can see everything on all three partitions. Partition Manager Explorer can also browse all three partitions. However, Partition Manager 5.5 (the version on my Bart CD) says the Vista partition is unavailable but D: OK. Tried with a separate Paragon Partition Manager 8.0 recovery CD and that said both C: and D: are unavailable due to crosslinking of the boundaries.

    How can some programs see everything in all of the partitions but the partition management apps can’t access some of them? And, more importantly, any suggestions to recover this?

    Haven’t yet tried the complete “Factory Restore” option as I don’t know for sure just how much will be wiped and how much recovered but hoping to find another option first as all files are clearly still intact. (No data on it to worry about as it is intended as a test/training PC.)

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    • #2509806

      Clarifications

      by gdscot ·

      In reply to Partition unavailable after running Partition Magic 8.0 (error 105)

      Clarifications

    • #2509787

      PM is correct

      by bhatnagar_nitin9 ·

      In reply to Partition unavailable after running Partition Magic 8.0 (error 105)

      in its saying because you somehow accidently merged two different partitions with overlapping boundaries. Partitions are basically a wardrobe kind of thing where you place your data. And any section overlapping or overlaying onto others will result in loss of data. This is what the problem in your system.
      The “Factory Restore” option you said earlier will just erase the complete data on your hard drive and may even re-partition the drive into a single drive as the case may be. So, if you have some good stuff on your system, better back it up first and then go for “Factory Restore” option. It will work all good.

      Another option to repair this may be in repartitiong the hard drive again. But for this you will need some good maths skill in order to allocate the exact/nearby size to the partitions which you were having earlier. Use that partition utility from which you can see all the partitions and then again try to resize them to the nearby sizes you were having previously. This way, you may get a chance to recover them safely. It may or may not work depending upon the type of merge/repartiotion you have done. But atleast you can give it a try to move further before going for a complete backup.

    • #2509779

      Vista can resize partition

      by bcpgm ·

      In reply to Partition unavailable after running Partition Magic 8.0 (error 105)

      My recommendation is to restore Factory settings and use Vista Disk Management to resize the partition (Shrink Volume) and then create a partition on unclaimed space.

      Good bye to Partition Magic for Windows Vista!

    • #2535338

      same problem

      by manfred-jacke ·

      In reply to Partition unavailable after running Partition Magic 8.0 (error 105)

      hi,
      I think I can’t help but i encoutered the exactly same problem. I even bought a new HD as i thought there must be a serious problem. but then even with the new drive after I installt xp and then vista I got the same error 105. I think Vista is to blame. Its partition manager at the beginning of the install messes something up.
      hope someone finds an answer…

    • #2535581

      Found a solution

      by gdscot ·

      In reply to Partition unavailable after running Partition Magic 8.0 (error 105)

      Thanks for the replies on this and sorry for not being able to reply sooner.
      I did not have access to any other disk utilities so tried a different approach. As Ghost could see all the partitions and data I did a Ghost image of each of the three current partitions: dell utility (1st on disk); restore (2nd on disk); and the Vista OS (3rd on disk). I guessed that the Restore partition would be OK as the partition information is at the start and would not have been affected by anything Partition Magic had done. The Vista partition would appear to have had it’s start position set earlier in the disk to cause the overlap. Using Partition Manager 8 I deleted the Vista partition and then recreated a partition on the empty space. Following that I copied the Ghost image back onto the free space, rebooted and everything was back up and running.
      Perhaps I was just lucky. Having read up on Vista’s boot process the end point of the “Restore” partition must have been correct to place the start of the recreated partition at the same point as before. Had this not been the same then the process would have failed as Vista stores details of its partition start position offset in a GUID in the Partition Boot Record.The GUID in the Ghost image would therefore have been different.
      See http://www.multibooters.co.uk for info on this.

      • #2481750

        Partion Sectors

        by tim_geo ·

        In reply to Found a solution

        You could have avoided the problem by noting the last column in the ptedit utility of Partition Magic. Sectors before say partition 3 = sectors before partition 2 + sectors in partition 2. In your case you had a problem where sectors before partition 3 < sectors before partition 2 + sectors in partition 2, hence overlapping partitions. The problem was introduced when Partition Magic "corrected" that it thinks is a problem. PM 8 is not compatible with Vista - although rather than PM 8 doing a bad job I think it's Vista having something dodgy in the partition design.

        • #2771659

          Vista Blocks PM8

          by runfree0 ·

          In reply to Partion Sectors

          I believe when PM were bought out by Symantec (if they were) Symantec then introduced there own version of a PM, stopped all support for PM8 and at the same time or in cohorts MS developed P Mgr. in Vista and arranged to emasculate PM8. The problem is PMgr. in Vista is far inferior to PM8 and does not work as stated. Having been caught by N Ghost many years ago would not touch there software again with a bargepole.

        • #2771629

          Dodgy VISTA

          by runfree0 ·

          In reply to Partion Sectors

          You are correct,

          Wish we knew what it was I have my suspisions!

    • #2870219

      Partion Magic Alternative, Partition Assistant for Disk Partition Managemen

      by enemyever ·

      In reply to Partition unavailable after running Partition Magic 8.0 (error 105)

      Partion magic 8.0 alternatives is partition assistant which is designed for disk partition management. As newest partition magic software, it can resize partition to support Vista and Windows 7. You can free download the partition manager to try.
      details at http://www.extend-partition.com/resource/partion-magic-powerquest-partition-download.html

    • #2810654

      Partition Magic is not compatible with Windows seven

      by bop-cat ·

      In reply to Partition unavailable after running Partition Magic 8.0 (error 105)

      I have to say at first, Partition magic is quite good, a perfect one. I don’t understand why it stopped upgrading. Confusing. I’ve never used partition magic because my OS is winodws seven ultimate 64 bit. It can not do anything under windows seven.
      Which one could be the best partition magic alternative? The public’s suggestion and professional reviews could help us do.
      Find the downloads of each partition manager program, taking download.cnet.com as an example. You will find a partition manager software list here
      http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0.html?query=partition+manager&platformSelect=Windows&tag=srch&searchtype=downloads&filterName=platform%3DWindows&filter=platform%3DWindows
      Take the one with the highest total downloads and weekly downloads as your choice
      The second one is the suggestion from microsoft
      http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2009.06.toolbox.aspx
      partition master is recommended.
      Based on these, i believe there is no other better choice for all of us to take partition master as the best partition magic alternative.
      http://www.partition-tool.com/

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