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By TheChas ·
Hi Tim,

Thinking about your DirectX problem, I have been looking over my XP system that has a GeForce 2 MX200 32MB card installed.

ASUS A7V
Athlon 950 MHz
768MB PC 133 SDRAM

It passes all DirectX diagnostics tests.

Do you have driver file 28.32_winxp and 28.32_win9x downloaded from Nvidia's driver page and installed?

Looking at the driver file details from device manager, I see the following:

NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro

64 DLL and EXE files all revision 6.13.10.2832
58 HLP files with no revision listed.

I have a Windows 98 system with an AMD K6-3/400 with a Nvidia Vanta 8.
This system froze on the Direct 3D test utill I updated it to the 28.32 driver. (forgot to check what revision the old driver was)

If you want, I could send you the DirectX diagnostic test file for both systems. Perhaps, you can track down a missing or wrong revision file.

Either leave me an e-mail address, or send an e-mail to me at thechas2000@yahoo.com

Consider the feedback and points a gimmie for all that I have learned from reading your answers to questions.

Chas

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by TimTheToolMan In reply to Points for Tim The Toolma ...

Hi Chas,

Thanks for this, but the points aren't necessary as I'm sure I've learned as much from your answers as you could have from mine! :-)

Hopefully if we (or someone) finds the answer to this, then it'll be applicable to Clark too...

Asfar as the problem goes...

I had downloaded the updated drivers (28.32_winxp) from nVidia very soon after they came out and went to remove and re-install them again in case something went wrong the first time. When I did it, I noticed they were unsigned! I figured I had a beta set and re-download them. This time they were 2k bigger - the signing info I guess, but may also have included other changes?

Anyway... Nope.

There is still one thing, though... Do you have a "Beta retail" component listed? mfc32.dll

I pulled both of the 64Mb memory cards (to guarantee I got the older one), leaving 256Mb. Nope.

I upgraded the BIOS to the latest, dated Jan this year... Nope.

I've re-installed WinXP as an upgrade installation. Nope.
But then it doesn't work on Win98 either! So I'm wondering whether it could possibly be driver or registry corruptions at all!?

So I thought maybe the card itself? Do you think it would be possible for the card to fail in such a way as to break Direct3D 7 extensions only? For example, the card plays Unreal Tournament which uses OpenGL and I imagine most of the same 3d internals of the card... Also everything else about the card works fine!

It worries me that Clark is having the same problem (as reported by dxdiag) and he's tried several cards!!

I may have to go with a format, re-install to prove its the hardware once and for all. Or fix it, if I'm lucky!

The other option I have is to stuck her card in one of the other machinesand see if I get the same results. I think I'll try that one next.

Cheers,
Tim.

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by TheChas In reply to Points for Tim The Toolma ...

Well Tim,

Here's what I have on the XP system:
No mfc32.dll at all. Not listed in the driver file details, nor found in a search of the drive.

The Nvidia DLLs are all dated 3/9/2002. I downloaded the files on 4/4.

Sumarizing the DirectX report;

With the exception of 4 files, all DirectX DLLs are dated 8/17 and 8/23 2001
d3d8 is 11/9/01
dxmasf 10/4/01
mciqtz 3/22/98
qdvd 11/9/01

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce2 GTS
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device I Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0150&SUBSYS_002C10DE&REV_A4
Display Memory: 32.0 MB
Current Mode: 800 x 600 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Hyundai DeluxScan 15G+
Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.13.10.2832 (English)
DDI Version: 8 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/9/2002 09:53:00, 3416141 bytes
Driver Signed: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VD
Mini VD nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 3/9/2002 09:53:00,909501 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4210-11CF-7E78-262006C2CB35}
Vendor I 0x10DE
Device I 0x0150
SubSys I 0x002C10DE
Revision I 0x00A4
Registry: OK

I remember being warned that the drivers were not signed when I installed them.

Under 98, there are 70 Nvidia files in the System folder dated 3/9/02

Most of the DirectX files are dated 10/30/01. Numerous files have an older date.

Double check the date and revision of the file vgartd.vxd it should match the other Nvidia driver files.

I assembled a system with an S3 Savage 4 card (don't ask).
The system passed the Direct 3D tests the first time!
I sent Clark my results.
Here is the link to Clarks question.
http://www.techrepublic.com/forumqa/thread_detail.jhtml?thread_id=91075

I'm rateing this as unacceptable so that we can keep up the dialog.

Chas

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by TheChas In reply to Points for Tim The Toolma ...

Point value changed by question poster.

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by TheChas In reply to Points for Tim The Toolma ...

Tim, I'm adding points as a thankyou for your efforts on Maxwells question and the effort to get the all questions link back.

Also, I performed my regular Windows update check on my XP system, and MS claims to have a new Nvidia driver.
Interestingly, Nvidia still has version 28.32 dated 4-26-2002 posted.

Best Wishes, Chas

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by TimTheToolMan In reply to Points for Tim The Toolma ...

Hi TheChas,

Thanks for continuing to look at ths with me!
I haven't yet dont the video card swap with my server's card - unfortunately I haven't yet had the chance.

...but I got a mail message from Clark who eventually shelved his motherboardas no card would work in it... Not yet confimed for me, but I suspect my partner's motherboard might be stuffed too.

I'll foward Clark's message to you too. Seems like a nice guy... And pretty PC confident for an "oldie!" :-)

Anyway, I'll let you know how it goes when I swap the cards!

Cheers,
Tim.

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by TheChas In reply to Points for Tim The Toolma ...

Thanks for the feedback Tim.

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