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Preparing for non-traditional disasters?

By Selena Frye Editor ·
Does your organization's disaster recovery plan address "non-traditional" disasters? Have you had to deal with any serious outages that came out of left field? Share your experience and let us know how you got everything back online.

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2004 Hurricanes

by BFilmFan In reply to Preparing for non-traditi ...

4 of them in a row in Florida came over the client's location. They quickly learned the meaning of the old Army term "bug out."

In other circumstances, I recall a disaster center that learned being in the lovely woods wasn't such a good idea when the forest fire decided to come along for a visit.

Real disasters can't be prevented, but a careful analysis of risks lets you plan for the "what's teh most insane thing that can happen?" question.

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Won't happen here

by stress junkie In reply to Preparing for non-traditi ...

I haven't even been able to persuade people to prepare for more common disasters like fires. Off site backup storage? Are you kidding? Costs too much. Too much trouble.

Do managers HAVE to be certifiable idiots or is it just a coincidence that they all are?

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It eventually will happen here

by OriginalWoody In reply to Won't happen here

Your best bet is to gather facts, figures, scenarios and solutions. Then present it to management (the bigger the group the better)and allow them to decide whether the effort or costs outweigh the benefit. The responsibility is squarely on managements shoulders. These days, especially with Sarbanes-Oxley, Senior Management may be fiscally responsible if they choose not to actively prepare for common disasters.

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Acceptable Risk ver's Reality

by zczc2311 In reply to Preparing for non-traditi ...

I read and feel for those consultants who would very much like to implement the simplest of Data recovery Mechanisms to the most adventurous and Completely Adequate and on Paper the Absolute Correct information written here by Mike.

Yes, I have worked in huge installation, sunk deep underground, with retina scan the lot, with Quad Mainframe Redundancy, via private SNA satellite links, and running TPF/UG on top of C++ or sometimes the old Assembler code.

Now let?s deal with the frustrations of the IT Consultant who knows what to do to protect, at bear minimum, to implement some type of Data recovery and you all put in on paper and make a nice Power Point Presentation and show the person with the check book how much it?s going to Cost.

And most of the time, there will be a huge UG! And a definite NO from the check book holder.

Yes and many will feel the absolute frustration of Manager who do NOT understand what might be possible in the event of even the smallest glitch.

I can assure you that serious Data Centers that hold serious information are very well prepared for any event.

Back to reality?..The answer to you frustration as an IT consultant it to provide all the information that is required to implement safe practices and if you get a NO, then all you can do is say. This is a possible scenario and this is how to fix it. If is cost too much then you as the director/owner/check book holder assume acceptance of the fact that Disasters/Outages/Data Loss however you might like to frame it, that they have made the discussion to say NO and therefore are accountable IF anything does happen.

Sleep easy my friends, all you can do is show demonstrate and present loss of any nature to any company, but in reality decision are made to accept what might be a very vulnerable situation and its NOT your responsibility NOR are you accountable if anything goes wrong.

Above all in every company/organization/entirety there exists acceptable risk, and that decision is not yours, as the IT consultant all you can do is show what is possible and let someone else be responsible for either listening to you or not.

Mike is presenting some of the finest guidelines that re indeed followed by many companies, and yes many will never spend money of Data security. It acceptable risk and all you can hope to do is learn from Mikes presentations, present a what if scenario and let someone else decide what is acceptable risk given your presentation as an IT professional .

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