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by jdm1998ex

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Hey guys I have a problem that I am unable to resolve. I have just purchased a Intel Desktop DP35DP with a 3.0 duo core processor from a local pc store as well as a seagate 7200.10 160GB sata Hard drive from an individual off of craigslist. (I just wanted to list the stuff that I purchased) And I installed everything tonight, I guess the hard drive was once used in an apple pc because without putting my OS disk in it tries to load it but doesnt work. So I popped in my XP pro disk and let it get to the options menu where you hit enter to continue and it does not recognize my drive and the only option I have is to restart. So I tried the F5 method booting through I486 (I once had to do this with a dell hard drive that had 2000 on it) and no luck. Dou you know of any other options I can try? I don't have access where I am at now to an alternate pc to run it as a slave drive to wipe it clean. =(

I would appreciate any help, if there is any other information you would like to know feel free to ask.

UPDATE:

I went and purchased a new Hitachi Deskstar 500gig sata drive model number : HDP725050GLA360 today and tried to run a fresh install on it with the same error, my BIOS is locating the drive but when I load windows it says there is no drive available.

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by older mycroft

Download and run Darik's Boot & Nuke:

http://www.dban.org/download

Depending on your present hardware you can choose the Floppy version or the CD version.

Either way, boot from the respective disc/disk and it'll nuke the hard drive completely. :)

by jdm1998ex

So just copy it to disk and run and I should be good to go even without an operating system now? I'm going to get it downloaded and give er a whirl thanks Mycroft!

by jdm1998ex

I was just reading up on the help section and on the known issues it states if I'm using a core duo processor I have to use the 2.0 pre-release to get full performance. I'm not sure if it will but I guess it is worth a try. I will update you soon!

by rob miners

During boot, enter the BIOS setup by pressing F2.

If the system locks or won?t boot after making BIOS settings changes, perform a BIOS recovery as described at http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-023360.htm.

Navigate to the Advanced > Drive Configuration Menu

Check that these are the settings, modify them to suit, remembering to Save the settings, then reboot and recheck the BIOS to see if the Drive is detected. If it is XP should detect the Drive.

ATA/IDE Configuration ? Enhanced (or Native)

Enhanced (or Native) enables all SATA and PATA resources.

Configure SATA as? ? IDE IDE is default

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Extended IDE Drive ? Auto

Auto: automatically detects a SATA hard disk drive. If automatic detection is successful, values for the drive specifications are automatically filled in.

Press F10 to Save and Exit.

Let us know how you get on.

BIOS Settings Glossary - By Menu [PDF

http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/biosglossarybymenu_v09.pdf

If the BIOS is configured properly you have no need to install any Drivers.

by older mycroft

As we seem to do more and more these days.

Glad to see someone else was on the case. ;)

by jdm1998ex

I ran the CD version and after booting I chose the autonuke and got this:

DBAN finished with non-fatal errors.
This is usually caused by disks with bad sectors. Send the log file with all support requests.

What do you think?

by rob miners

Half the time that I check to see if my contacts are on they are not displayed but they are merrily posting away. I often find myself playing catchup. ;)

I haven't got the gist of these TAGS yet. :p

by nikolazivkovicle

Hay man, why don`t you try to format your HDD with some Linux Distribution he will allow you to do that or You can also try to format your HDD through XP setup proces!

by older mycroft

He can't do that. The system doesn't recognise what may have been an old MAC drive.

Always best to start from the start. ;)

by jdm1998ex

I purchased a brand new 500gig sata drive and I am having the same problem now =\ any suggestions?

by rob miners

for futher instructions as I think that you may have missed the drive. How long did it run for as it normally takes a couple of hours. ;)

by jdm1998ex

Sorry for the delay but I don't have a pc at home and I just got back into work. Last night when I went home I successfully ran the pre released version like listed and it took about 4.5 hours to complete. I then attempted to reload the windows CD and it's still not finding my drive. =( So I went today to pickup another drive (I needed another anyways) Which is also a sata drive and in BIOS it locates both of them. When I went to load windows it did the same thing. =\ I don't know whats going on, have any other suggestions?

by rob miners

to the above settings. If that is not working you will have to Slipstream your XP CD to add the SATA Drivers.

Download nLite

http://home.midmaine.com/~nlite/nlite/nLite-1.4.8.installer.exe

These are the steps that I took

Download the Sata Drivers from the manufacturesrs web site.

Installed Nlite

Extracted Sata Drivers to a folder named Sata

Copied the entire XP CD to a folder named XPS

Ran Nlite and Browsed to the XPS folder, then selected Drivers and Bootable ISO click next

At the Drivers Tab click insert, single driver and navigate to the folder with the inf for windows XP.

Highlight it and select open and select next. Select Textmode driver and select the XP Sata driver and click OK.

Click next and Yes to apply changes, next and select Make ISO.

Let us know how you get on.

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by Former member

Download a linux disk:
ubuntu:
http://www.ubuntu.com/
Burn to cd/dvd, and load this on, this will load and repartition automatically (unless you want to do it manually), then when loaded, reload Windows and follow through. If you are still having problems then go into your bios and look for the settings for SATA drives and make sure they are marked "have sata as ide", or something similar, reboot and load on your Windows disk.
Hope all goes well.

Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.

by jdm1998ex

I will definitely give it a whirl right now ty! I will have to try to download this from an alternate location due to the fact that Im running on bridged bandwidth at work right now darnit.

by older mycroft

By setting the BIOS to "have sata as ide" ?

Would this be for a Gigabyte mobo ?

by rob miners

has finally picked up their game and added it too. ;)

I provided a link in my first post. :)

< time to replace this keyboard I think >

by older mycroft

When you first posted, before you updated your post, you said the disk was not recognised and we have been suggesting ways to scrub whatever was on it, for a new install to start afresh.

If, according to your update, you now have exactly the same problem with this brand new HDD, then your original problem was a lack of SATA drivers, not where the disk had been before.

You need to download the SATA drivers for your new HDD, preferably from the manufacturer's site of your motherboard.

You'll also need access to a USB floppy drive, then reinstall XP.

Shortly into the XP install, at the bottom of the screen, you are prompted to 'Press F6' for installation of special drivers. At this point you press F6, then plop the floppy into the floppy drive and include the SATA drivers at that point, into the installation process for XP.

The XP installation should then continue as normal.

by jdm1998ex

I will try that right now, I am fairly new to this whole sata as an OS drive thing. Ive ran a couple as backups but I didnt even think about that. I just got done downloading nlite but I will give this a go...god I feel like a retard today I swear.

by older mycroft

Don't knock yourself for having difficulties.

I've been sitting squirming for over a fortnight now, arguing with system builders and tech engineers and I'm still no further forward - my FLOPPY isn't recognised, let alone my SATA drives. :D

by jdm1998ex

Well at this time I just want to shoot the maker of this board in the face to be honest.

But anyways to the problem.. I've been searching for my sata drivers and these are the steps I've made it to so far. (I forgot to mention I don't have a floppy drive due to the fact there is no plugin for it on board yet I havent looked for any sort of adapter for it yet)

I do have the floppy drive at home for the sata drivers its called RAID AHCI Driver so I visited hitachi at:
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/hddfaqs.htm hitachi
They say my motherboard should have them so I google'd it and found this download here:
http://drivers.softpedia.com/progDownload/Intel-Desktop-Board-DP35DP-Bios-0407-Download-55611.html
How will I be able to load it? I have a thumb drive I borrowed from my buddy if that helps.

UPDATE : I've been searching for the actual intel driver and came to this page.
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=2782&OSFullName=Windows*+XP+Professional&lang=eng&strOSs=44&submit=Go!
It has a list of different drivers I guess I'm going to attempt the thumb drive since the OS did try allow me to partition on it, so it has to be these drivers... the problem is getting them on. I hope it locates them on the thumb.

by older mycroft

The link you posted for Softpedia takes you to a screen for downloading your motherboard BIOS.

I would strongly suggest that you don't flash your BIOS unless you have diagnosed FOR CERTAIN that there is a problem with the BIOS.

Until this point, your system's BIOS hadn't been a problem had it? Or am I missing something?

by jdm1998ex

I was trying to somehow install my sata drivers through the F6 command but this board has no floppy drive(there is no floppydrive connection on board). I attempted the thumb drive as a source but of coarse that didnt work. Would you happen to know another way to get them installed. I just put them on a cd...I have no clue if that is going to work.

Hell right about now I don't even know what the correct drivers even are that Im looking for...lol. What do you think about these.

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&Inst=Yes&ProductID=2782&DwnldID=15251&strOSs=44&OSFullName=Windows*%20XP%20Professional&lang=eng

by rob miners

I goofed again it is obviously INTEL who took the plunge.

by rob miners

you could slipstream them and create the ISO and burn it to a rewriteable. I would recommend rechecking the BIOS settings first.

by older mycroft

This one:

STOR_all32_f6flpy32_8.5.0.1032_PV.zip

You have the benefit of having a floppy-disk-set all together in one download. If it's anything like mine and the others I've seen it will probably consist of either 4 or 5 files (estimate) including a .SYS, a .INF, a .EXE, and one or two other files.

[u]As to how to load it:[/u]
Go into your BIOS and get to the boot order page. Your boot order should be:
#1 CD/DVD
#2 Removable Drive
#3 Hard Drive
#4 Unspecified at present/Other

The 'Removable Drive' is rather important here: somewhere else in the BIOS you can specify exactly what you want the Removable Drive to be - it can be either a Floppy or a Memory Stick.

Whether you have any luck with either is in the lap of the gods and your particular motherboard. As I have previously mentioned, it doesn't work in my case (yet).

As an aside, up until a couple of days ago I would've agreed with you that my motherboard [ASUS P5N-E SLI] also didn't have a designated connector for a floppy drive - but it turns out it does!

It's tucked away in an inaccessible corner, right down at the base of my tower on the right hand corner of the mobo. Might just be worth a check, eh? ;)

Mind you, as in my case it's not much use having just bought a USB floppy drive. :^0

by rob miners

iaahci.cat
iaAHCI.inf
iastor.cat
iaStor.inf
IaStor.sys
license.txt
TXTSETUP.OEM

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by jdm1998ex

Ok I have the data drivers now, all of the ones you mentioned. I am going to go ahead and try the nlite now. Also I haven't found the plug in for the floppy =( here is a picture of the board from a couple angles on newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=13-121-314-02.jpg&Image=13-121-314-02.jpg%2c13-121-314-03.jpg%2c13-121-314-04.jpg%2c13-121-314-05.jpg%2c13-121-314-06.jpg%2c13-121-314-07.jpg%2c13-121-314-08.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&WaterMark=1&Item=N82E16813121314&Depa=0&Description=Intel%20BOXDP35DPM%20ATX%20Intel%20Motherboard

by jdm1998ex

So I took her home last night and started doing what I could from home without another pc. I decided to try to use a ide to sata adapter I picked up yesterday and I hooked up an old hard drive to it, I left my sata drives on and all of the sudden when I went into my bios I was able to change the RAID to IDE...so I did. I booted the windows cd and it recognized both of my sata drives when I went to partition! I tried to install the first copy to my 500gb sata and it went through the whole process and froze on the loadup. I got the missing ntdrl (I think that is what it was called) on bootup and then went and tried to load it on my 160gig sata but this time I F5'd through the initialization and went i486. I got it up and running!

Now since then I have some problems with the OS locking up randomly. I then went and switched the 160gig sata (OS) drive and connected it to sata 0 instead of 1 which it was on due to the prior install of windows on my 500gig which was on 0. Sinse then I havent had any lockups yet. I am going to try to load some of the games on again and I will update to let you know how things are going, I just want to say thanks to everyone that has helped me out thus far. If there is anything I should try to do to check and make sure everything is working properly let me know!

Thanks again!

by rob miners

load your Motherboard and Video Drivers. Install your Antivirus and let it update.

Let us know how you get on.

by jdm1998ex

I've loaded my video drivers and they seem to be ok, I get a flash (like a screen refresh) when I load into windows.

I loaded my motherboard and sata drivers as well. For some reason when I chose to restart my computer after an install it doesn't, I have to manually restart everytime. Prior to my motherboard driver install which I just did I experienced another lock up, I don't get a BSOD or any error it just goes unresponsive. The last time I had it happen I was installing a game onto my pc for the 4th time now and the only other applications I had open was youtube and I realised my sound was acting up so I went to the control panel and when I clicked sound and audio devices it froze up.

Any suggestions?

by jdm1998ex

Due to the way the drives were originally located my main drive is stuck as E:. Since then I wiped the other drive (500gig sata) and I have a file on it now called $WIN_NT$.~BT and a sub directory thats named system32. Sinse it is set as C: would that effect the way some programs install? And if so what should I do about it?

by rob miners

I would remove both Drives and choose the one that I want as my Primary Drive and connect it to Slot0. Delete the Partition and recreate it and reinstall the Operating System. When you are up and running add the second Drive. You can then format it or Repartition it as you please.

by jdm1998ex

I think after I get things going somewhat smoothly on this drive that I will take it out and just install i486 on the 500gb and if it seems to go smoother I will reinstall all this crap on it and just format the 160 (the curent OS drive) and use it as a backup. I'm hoping that after SP3 installs and I have everything up and running the problems stop. But if not I'll goto plan B.

Thanks again for all of the help. Do you know of any tools that I can use to check the stability of the OS..drivers etc.

by rob miners

SiSoftSandra and I have no problems with that. Do a Google for it.

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