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Problem sharing NTFS volumes to Win98

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by sgeorgiades

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I have a home network that consists of three computers... a 233MHz Pentium MMX with 416MB, a 466 MHz Celeron with 160MB, and a Laptop with an AMD processor (K6, I beleive, at about 300-400mHz) and 192MB, all running Windows 98se. The network is 100-BaseT Ethernet, with CAT-5 cabling throughout, using Client for Microsoft Network, and Microsoft Family Logon. The network is setup with the 233mHz MMX as the "server", with the primary shared resources on this machine. All worked well in this configuration. BUT... I recently upgraded the MMX machine to a brand-new HP Pavilion 751 P4 1.7GHz with 512MB DDR and windows XP. With this new setup, I am able to access the laptap FROM the XP machine, but when I try to map a network drive to a shared folder on the XP machine from the laptop, I get an "out of memory" error. I have not had any luck finding any info on this from the Microsoft knowledgebase. The XP machine in setup with NTFS... is this a problem to access from Win98? Does anyoneout there have any idea what this problem might be? I can supply more info if needed.

To summarize, from a Win98 machine, I am unable to map a network drive to a shared folder on a WinXP NTFS machine, getting a "Out of Memory" error.

Thanks!

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by gigelul

Hi
Not NTFS is your problem, check:
-if you added in user manager on XP machine the Win9x user and in share permissions/security you must allow this user to use the share.
If this don't help you post comments.

by sgeorgiades

Is the "user manager" only available in XP PRO? I am using XP HOME. I have a User Accounts control panel, but this doesn't seem to have what you are describing.

by pocono

Make sure you have file and printer sharing enabled. Set permissions in XP system...Peace...

by sgeorgiades

I do have file and printer sharing enabled. I'm not sure exactly which permissions you are referring to, but each shared resource has both the "Share this folder on the network" and the "Allow network users to change my files" boxes checked. Is there something else that needs to be set? (this is for XP HOME).

by bkinsey1

Yes, NTFS is the problem. Windows 95, 98, and Me do not support NTFS, and thus can't access a share on an NTFS partition.

by bkinsey1

Geez, I should plug in my brain before answering. 100% retraction of this answer commencing now. . . .

by shanghai sam

In most corperate domains w98 PC access Network shares on NTSF volumes so I don't think thats the problem. Make share that the PCs are members of the same workgroup, then setup a user account on the XP PC and add them to the administrators group, verify that file and print sharing is enabled,and grant the user permisions under sharing and security. Make sure you can access the share though Network Neighborhood(you may need to wait up to 45 min for the share to show up) on the 98 PC then try mapping it. If you don't see the share there maybe a Name resolution problem. Give the XP PC a really short name and see if that helps.

by sgeorgiades

All PCs are in the same workgroup, "HOME". Currently, i have been testing this while logged in under my primary username, which is an administrator account; file and print sharing IS enabled. How do I grant individual users different permissions?Is this feature only available under XP PRO? I do NOT know how to do this, if there's any assistance you can give... ? Thanks!

by philldmc

NTFS is not the problem. Many 9x clients access a NT file server. So that is not the problem. I would make sure that the firewall in XP is disabled. It does come with one built in. Second make sure you have file and print sharing enabled. Make sure your protocals are the same. Also make sure you have shared the c: drive correctly on the XP machine and you have set premissions.

by sgeorgiades

The firewall IS off; file and print shared IS enabled; the protocol in use on both machines is TCP/IP. I have shared ALL on my drives (two hard disks, floppy disk, cr-rw, SmartMedia reader and CompactFlash reader. How DOES one set these legendary "permissions"?

by sgeorgiades

Note: This same behavior is displayed for all of my shares. I currently have my XP/NTFS system setup to share both hard disks (80GB & 20GB), the floppy diskette, the DVD-ROM, the CD-RW, plus a SmartMedia/CompactFlash memory card reader, as well as my HP DJ 920c printer. ALL of these shares display the same behavior! Note that when I try to map a drive to a non-existent resource on the XP machine, I get a different error message. Another piece of information that may be important is that my O/S is Windows XP HOME. Many of the responses I've gotten appear to only apply to XP PRO.

by sgeorgiades

My shares are setup correctly. It is only the hard disk shares that are causing the Out-Of-Memory error.

by philldmc

To set permissions: Right click on any drive, look for sharing and then look for "permissions".

Each OS is a little different, it might be Sharing-Security-Permissions.

You can give permission to a group or to a certian user.

Hope this helps

Phill

by sgeorgiades

I do not have any user-level protection setup, so there are no permission settings. Please note that I am able to share my floppy, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, etc. It is only the hard disk shares that are causing the Out-Of-Memory error.

by sgeorgiades

Actually, the last comment was incorrect. Shares for my DVD-ROM, CD-RW, Floppy Diskette, etc. all map correctly. It is only the hard disks (and folders on the hard disks) that cause this error (Out of Memory). Both of these hard disks are NTFS, one is 80GB and the other is 20GB.

by gigelul

In a pear to pear network the maximum connection to a share is 10. I know that you have only 3 computers but maybe somehow that is the issue.

by lizzy

I see in one of your comments that you are using Windows XP HOME edition. This is your problem. There is NO networking feature in the HOME edition. You will need to upgrade to Professional version in order to network this PC. Wish it was better news than this...

by sgeorgiades

This is definitely NOT true. I have networking installed, and as I've said, it works for all non-hard disk resources. My XP machine has NO problem seeing resources of any kind on other PC's on the network.

by the computer wizard

check to make sure the ip address is in the same poolmaker sure the network is the same, run the network setup wizard in the xp machine.. the make sure in the 98 machine that the ip address is setg to automatic make all the network settings in the 98 machine automatic... and the workgroup is the same at the xp machine.. also add the username exactly the same on the 98 maschine to the xp machine in the user manager with can be found by right clicking on my computer the choose manage.. xp uses ipaddress not netbiue like 98 and me...

by lizzy

You're right. I was thinking domains, not peer to peer. Look here for articles that might have the answer you're looking for:

https://www.techrepublic.com/article.jhtml?id=r00620020416boy01.htm&src=search

https://www.techrepublic.com/article.jhtml?id=r00320010717bot01.htm&src=search

Look at the SFS notes. You may have to boot to Safe mode to change permissions on this. I am still not sure that mapping drives would be enabled with peer to peer and xp home, if you have done this before, but now it's not working on these two specific pc's then it must be related to accounts and their user rights on the xp machine. Does the xp machine see the 98 machine as a part of the peer to peer network? Does the 98 machine and user(s) have rightson the xp machine? Please post a comment with your final solution. Thanks.

by lizzy

The XP PC needs to be booted to Safe Mode (only home edition PC's) in order to change SFS options as per the first article link.

peer to peer=workgroup

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