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By rick2x9 ·
Hi,

I have a work laptop which I have removed from it?s domain (by changing to a workgroup) and now have two problems:
1) How to rejoin the domain.
2) How to retrieve files in ?my docs? from the (now removed) domain user. Of course, now that the domain was removed Windows has removed the user on that domain and the associated ?my docs? folder.

All ideas appreciated! The background is:

1) Laptop was set up on work domain. When logging in and not connected to the work domain it would try to syncronise with server files and not find them, but otherwise no issues.
2) To try and help debug a home networking problem I changed the laptop from being on the work domain to the home workgroup.
3) Then I learnt a lot about the differences between domains and workgroups?.
4) I can log in under the workgroup with local admin rights, however I can not simply change the laptop back to the work domain. This (I expect) requires a user with domain admin rights, not local machine admin rights. I have tried connecting the laptop back to the work network and entering the domain info, however this does not work (insufficient privileges?).
5) I can not access the files in ?my docs? ? and that would be really useful.

Is there any way to rejoin the domain without having domain admin rights? Does windows keep a record of the old domain that can be reincarnated?

Given that the files system is NTFS, is there an easy way to access the files I want? The easiest option (!) I have come up with so far is make a DOS boot CD with a DOS NTFS file reader on, and find some USB memory stick DOS drivers so that I can copy the files off (NB ? no floppy). I?m getting there with this but it?s a learning experience?

If someone with domain admin rights was to me as a user again, would the ?my docs? folder become accessible again, or would it be a completely new user?

The OS is XP prof with service pack 2, although I could have sworn that when I was in the work domain it said

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by Gigelul In reply to re-joining domain after c ...

Hi,
1. Rejoining to domain - ask the domain admin
2. Normaly your docs are in the same place.
a.If the initial settings was to a local folder, you can search on:
- DEFAULT PATH: C:\Documents and Settings\UserName
if you receive an "access denied" you can change permission for this folder (first use "take owner ship")
- or remember where you saved the docs.
b.If the settings was a network location - ask the domain admin.
3. If you make permission changes you will not have the same "profile" but a new one.

It is enough to rejoin the laptop to domain, to have the same environment/profile back.

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by Gigelul In reply to

for hozcanhan,

The computer was removed from domain not the user.

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by Gigelul In reply to

For me looks like:
- when you login to the domain, there is a domain policy which redirect some folders from local drive (C:\docs and settings\NEW_PROFILE\my documents\folder A\xxx.doc)to a network location (\\server01\workhome$\OLD_PROFILE\folder A\xxx.doc"). Something I don't understand: this is a laptop (a mobile device) the docs must be locally! (not all, but the necessary docs)
- you can use "take owner ship" for "My Documents" folder from C drive, but the necesary docs are on a network drive (usualy H: drive or "home drive") in "folder A"
- to access that network drive you need to use a domain account (username and password) and a PC authenticated in domain (generally)

Try to use other PC (from a coleg) which is configured correct and is conected to the network using your domain username. You can have a nice surprise to see that all it is OK, except the rejoining the laptop to the domain (depends how was configured the profile by your admin, roaming or not).
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by rick2x9 In reply to

ha ha - I agree with everythign you say, but as I said before I can't take ownership of the folder - as I already have owenership - just there is something enexpected going on. I have ownership of A 'my docs' folder but it is not the one I want (yes, under the OLD_PROFILE folder).

thanks for all the help - but I'm going to go running to my network admin apologetically. at least there isn't an obvious solution I have missed which makes me feel (a bit) better.

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by Sue T In reply to re-joining domain after c ...

I have a question to add to yours and hopefully someone will have the answer. If they do have the answer and this works they should be the one to get the points, so I hope you don't mind. My question is: Would it work if he was to just do a system restore to a time prior to the changes he made? Thank you.

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by sgt_shultz In reply to re-joining domain after c ...

don't panic. you can easily get at the my docs folder by taking ownership of the folder using a local account belonging to the administrator's group. step by step details at support.microsoft.com
you should probably still have the option to login to the old domain, did you see if you had a pull down for it on the login screen?

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by hozcanhan In reply to re-joining domain after c ...

to my nowledge once a user is deleted , he/she cannot get back what he/she used to have if the same username is created . Why ? because a unique id number is created using the username by the server . If the docs were not purged , only the administrator can retrieve them and AFTER creating a new account can copy the files into the new home directory. please contact your administrator. good luck .

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by p.j.hutchison In reply to re-joining domain after c ...

4 You need at least Account Operator access to join a domain. A user can join upto 3 workstations to a domain.
5. Login as administrator to the PC, then take ownership of the folder in question (see Security tab) then you can reassign rights to your new user.

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