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Re-partition win98 to install NT

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On win98 box I used Linux fips.exe to reduce FAT32 partition to make another partition for NT. It worked o’key. Then I split again that new partition in 2 – total 3 partitions, because NT requires < 7GB for its setup. I tried to format it with fdisk, and got FAT32 system again. NT installation failed in the new 7GB partition. Any advice? It appeared that fdisk was unable to see all my disk space.

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NT Cannot see a FAT32 partition. It can only work on a FAT system or NTFS. FAT only supports a maximum of 2GB. I suggest you make a partition of only 2GB in size and boot off the NT CD and install from there. Or make NT Boot disks.

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use the command “winnt /ox” to create the bootfloppies.

during installation it will ask you to fromat the drive as fat or ntfs.

You can use fdisk form dos 6.x also, this will create a fat26 partition.

if you use fdisk of win9x you have to tell it ” not !! to enable large harddisk support”
this will also create fat16 partitions.

if you get a smaller partition during installation dont worry as when you upgrade to sp4 or higher you will then be able to access the full capacity of the harddisk.

another optionis to use partition magic to create the partitions for you before the setup.

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There is no ‘ox.exe’ on winnt.
You say ‘not to enable large disk support’, yet my disk is 30GB !! Is it still o’key without large disk support?
Thank you.
-Anatoly.

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There is no ‘ox.exe’ on winnt.
You say ‘not to enable large disk support’, yet my disk is 30GB !! Is it still o’key without large disk support?
Thank you.
-Anatoly.

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You will not be able to enable large disk support,it automatically enables a fat32 file system which is what the previous answer meant,and this will not allow you to see the 30g drive unless it is supported by the bios.
You will need to use a thirdparty software such as partition magic 6.
NT will not read the fat32 partition.

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the command to create the boot floppies is.
winnt.exe /ox

During installation ypu will see only 6GB, after applying the sp6a you will see the full 30 GB.

If you want to do it in 1 step.
(part1)
Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 4 (SP4) has a new Atapi.sys file that allows the drive to be formatted during setup of Windows NT. SP4’s Atapi.sys can also access space beyond 8GB on these IDE drives.

The system partition (boot partition) is still limited to 7.8GB whether an updated version of the Atapi.sys file is installed or not.

For more information, please see the following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:

Q114841 Windows NT Boot Process and Hard Disk Constraints
NOTE: The system board basic input/output system (BIOS) must support and recognize drives larger than 8GB before Windows NT can access the entire drive. You can verify this ability by entering into the BIOS or contacting your system board manufacturer.

If you are using Windows NT 4.0 Workstation, Server, or Terminal Server, follow these instructions:
Download the updated Atapi.sys from Microsoft’s FTP server:
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/winnt/winnt-unsup-ed/fixes/nt40/atapi/ATAPI.EXE
and copy the file to a blank floppy disk. Run Atapi.exe on the disk and the new Atapi.sys file is extracted to the disk. Label the disk “Microsoft ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE Driver.”

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part2)

Restart from the three setup disks supplied with Windows NT Server.

When asked if you would like setup to detect your mass storage devices, press “S” so that detection is skipped and you specify a mass storage device.

When setup list devices found, which should list , press “S” again and insert the Microsoft ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE Driver disk and press ENTER twice.

After setup reads the disk and list the Microsoft ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE driver, press ENTER to accept the driver.

Setup now lists Microsoft ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE Driver as an installed driver. If you have additional drivers for other mass storage devices, press S; if not, press ENTER to continue through setup.

Setup should continue through normally but, it prompts you to insert the disk labeled “Microsoft ATAPI Service Pack 4 IDE Driver Support Disk” at the copy phase after you have chosen or formatted a partition on a hard drive.

since you have to create at least 2 partitions I would suggest to use the 3 floppies , create 6 GB primary system partition, apply sp6a to see the rest and use the rest as a data medium or what you see fit.

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Thank a lot. I have re-done disk formatting completely to FAT and installed Win98 and NT – in 2GB partition each. I can boot any of those -it’s o’key. However, when I tried to create more partitions in the remaining 24GB by using fdisk – I couldn’t because fdisk doesn’t allow me to do it. How can I correct it?
-Anatoly.

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you dont use tools in dos anymore , you are in windows nt now. You have to use the tools in there.
go to start, programs , administrative tools, disk administrator. you will see the rest of the partition in there and you can create a extended partition.

next time post a comment or contact me via email. my good ratio answer is going down because of these kinds of back and fort questions and answer. next time contact the person and when done you rate the answer.
Obviously you are new to nt ,I would suggest you to buy a book or better yet head straight for w2k since nt won;t be supported any more by MS after 2003/2004.
I am going that road myself. If you need more help I can give you a headstart.

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remmber that 3th partition has to be fat if you want to see and use it in both OS.
win9x doesn’t read ntfs, winnt doesn’t read fat32. (w2k does see fat32.)
if you just want to see those partitions in the other os you can use the utillities from http://www.sysinternals.com (they provide only readonly capabillities.
another thing to remember is that win9x will see c,d(if d is fat,which is partition 1 and 3) and winnt will see c,d,e. (partition 1,2,3)

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You have created one primary partition of 2 GB and one extended partition of 2 GB with one logical partition of 2 GB . Rest of the 26 GB is left as unused space . What you should have done is to create the extended partition of 28 GB with one logical partition of 2 Gb in it …that would leave 26 GB usable space in the extended partion and you could use FDISK to make more logical partitions on it . You can now do two things …

1. You can use the disk admin in NT to create a FAT or a NTFS partition on the unused space ..which will only be accessible from NT . If you want the new partitions to be visible to win98 then you need to do the following .

2. Boot with a Win98 startup disk and type sys c: at the command prompt to restore win98 on the primary partition .You can delete the extended partition ( including the logical partition ) using FDISK which will also remove WinNT . Recreate an exetended partition of max size available ie. 28 Gb . Create a logical partition of 2 GB within the extended partition and format it with FAT . Run WinNT setup again an reinstall WinNT on this logical partition . Now you can run FDISK as and when to create more partitions or even Disk Admmin in WinNT to create more FAT partitions which willbe accessible from both win98 and winNT .

I hope it is helpful

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