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By rovoco ·
I recently converted my FAT16 partitions to FAT32
in WIN98SE to prepare for upgrading from a 13 GB
HDD to an 80 GB HDD. As required, I reinstalled
WIN98SE after converting my C:\drive to FAT32.
Bad move. Now, I run out of resources after a few
mouse clicks. I also note that I am getting a
long beep just after the first Windows 98 splash
screen occurs on bootup. I have run Memtest and
my 512 MB of memory is fine. Have tried default
BIOS settings with no success. It seems as
though WIN98 is not creating a swap file or is
not clearing memory buffers after each operation. Emergency startup disk works fine
with no long beep, so I assume the BIOS is seeing
something it does not like when WIN98 starts.
My system uses an Award BIOS on an Asus MOBD with
an AMD XP 1600+ processor. Any ideas would be
greatly appreciated.

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by TheChas In reply to Resource Problem

Sounds like the change to FAT32 triggered the W98 large RAM bug in your system.

There is a know bug in the core Windows 9X code that can cause a number of resource issues when you have more than 511MB of system RAM installed.

The bug is VERY configuration dependant.

The "supported" fix is to reduce the amount of system RAM.

Just to avoid the bug entirely, I limit my 9X boxes to between 196 and 384MB of RAM.

As a side note, benchmark tests have shown Windows 98 begins slowing down after you increase RAM above 196MB.

Another side note:
There is another 9X bug that may spring up.
With some IDE controllers, Windows 98 has problems with hard drives larger than 32MB.
I setup my 9X drives with multiple partitions / logical drives so that no logical drive is larger than 32MB.

Chas

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by rovoco In reply to

Chas -

Thanks for your suggestions. I changed the amount of memory
WIN98 is allowed to use in msconfig to 500MB as suggested by
pctech in answer 2, below. No luck. My HDD partitions are
all 2GB or less in size. What about the long beep I get when
Windows first begins to load?

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by pctech In reply to Resource Problem

"With some IDE controllers, Windows 98 has problems with hard drives larger than 32MB."
What Chas meant to say is with drives over 32 gigs and MS has a newer fdisk that will overcome this problem. The problem occurs when you use the fdisk version that ships with Win98 and it does not properly display the actual partiton size of partitions above 32 gigs in size. More proof the MS can not count?
As far as the installed memory is concerned, Chas is right on target. There is a work around for this as well. You can limit the amount of system ram that Win98 uses by running msconfig from the run line and then sellecting the "Advanced" tab. There will be a check box to limit the amount of ram Windows should use and a box to set the amount with.

I hope this further helps you.

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by rovoco In reply to

Tried changing the amount of memory WIN98 can use in
msconfig to 500MB. No luck. All my HDD partitions
are 2GB or less. What about the long beep I get when
Windows first starts? Hardware problem? This is not
a post code. What is the Award bios post code for one
long beep?

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by TheChas In reply to Resource Problem

How much free hard drive space do you have on the drive that the page file (virtual memory is located on?

(System properties / Performance / Virtual Memory)

With 500 MB of RAM, you want to have the page file on a drive that has at least 1GB of free space.

Another thought, have you booted into safe mode and ran scandisk and defrag on all drives?

After converting the file system to FAT 32, the cluster size on the hard drive changes. This can cause a lot of file fragmentation.

You actually did NOT need to convert your current drive to FAT 32 before installing your new drive.
If you format the new drive as a FAT 32 volume, you can simply copy the files from the old drive to the new drive.

One more thought, before setting up your new drive, read the article on Partition Strategy posted at www.aumha.org
I set up my hard drives in a similar manner.

Chas

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by youssifm In reply to Resource Problem

using ram more than a need, causes data traffic, like wide lane ends to narrow one.
also the cable speed is a matter of concern, so i added nothing more than what have been told, good luck

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