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SAINRAT.DLL missing in Windows 98 SE

By Z80man ·
From times to times, Windows 98 SE behaves in a very strange manner. When it lacks some memory, or in all cases with some rare programs, an alert box pops up displaying :

"A missing DLL, SAINRAT.DLL could not be found" then an "OK" button.

Thebox can't be closed, as it reappears as soon as you close it. there is no apparently attached task, so you can't kill it. It makes the machine run very slowly. If you want to shut down your computer (which is the only way to get rid of it), you haveto click a few hundred times on "OK" (or keep the ENTER key pushed down and let the keyboard autorepeat do the job) or the shut down process would stay stuck waiting.

Obviously, there is not (and there was never) any file called "SAINRAT.DLL", nor any file containing the word "SAINRAT" (and possibly searching for it).

This is the greatest mystery I was ever confronted to in the Microsoft Jungle. Obviously, nobody knows about it. It resists Windows reinstallation after having destroyed theregistry and the system files.

Anybody having a (sensible) idea will be welcome !

Thanks !

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SAINRAT.DLL missing in Windows 98 SE

by rockyolson In reply to SAINRAT.DLL missing in Wi ...

Hi I can honestly say I have never heard of it. I would you try to update yur antivirus and run afull virus scan. If htis does not help wist your AV site and see what you find there. I ran a find for it and it's not on my puter.

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SAINRAT.DLL missing in Windows 98 SE

by Z80man In reply to SAINRAT.DLL missing in Wi ...

Don't worry, it's not a virus either. I think it's something in the Windows kernel. Today, it appeared after I had cancelled the installation of a non-identified self-extracting program. By the way, it was the first time the dialog box accepted to close without reappearing immediatly !

Well, if this behaviour had any connection with viruses, it could be that I tried half a dozen of antiviruses before finding one that would not dramatically speed down my computer or crash Windows after a few months... And maybe there are some pieces of an old, uninstalled anti-virus remaining, as they are often hard to completely remove from the system once installed, though I was very careful on it.

If anyone is interested, I finally chosed Computer Associates' Inoculate-It Personal Edition, which, apart from being forced to deactivate realtime protection while burning CD's, doesn't obviously slow down the computer nor provoke extra problems. it is also freeware (for personal use), includingthe upgrades.

Thank you to have paid attention to the problem, but as nobody I know had the problem, I think I'll have to wait until someone more aware than me of what's going on inside Windows finally gets the problem on his own computer and solves it.

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SAINRAT.DLL missing in Windows 98 SE

by Psyadi In reply to SAINRAT.DLL missing in Wi ...

What other programs are running on this computer?
Did you clean install or just install over the top of windows?
i presume you have checked the registry and system files for any reference to sainrat?
have you run scanregw from run prompt?
bar scanning for viruses, (i have checked nortons resource centre and can find nothing on this though.) i am not sure.

regards
-Psy

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SAINRAT.DLL missing in Windows 98 SE

by Z80man In reply to SAINRAT.DLL missing in Wi ...

In fact, I had to reinstal Windows a certain number of times (That's Windows, you know :-) and in order to ensure maximum reloading of resources while keeping links, mail, icons and so on, I proceed this way :

- delete system and inf directories
- delete system.dat and all backup copies
- delete win.com

The rest in harmless in theory ; I keep the command directory to get easily all I need under DOS.

For the rest of your answer, this should not be a virus related problem (see previous answer), and by the way, Norton 4 did a mess of Windows, I had to remove it a fews years ago...

Thank you for your interest, anyway.

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SAINRAT.DLL missing in Windows 98 SE

by rockyolson In reply to SAINRAT.DLL missing in Wi ...

Hi once again have you run sfc from comand promt??

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SAINRAT.DLL missing in Windows 98 SE

by Z80man In reply to SAINRAT.DLL missing in Wi ...

sfc : bad command or file name.

Sorry, this answer is actually "unratable" but the web server seems not to accept my comment if the answer is not rated (I answered a long time ago, but didn't notice that it simply though out the comment...)

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SAINRAT.DLL missing in Windows 98 SE

by maxwell edison In reply to SAINRAT.DLL missing in Wi ...

Greetings,

I did a search for that file on my Microsoft TechNet and on the Web. There were no instances of that file being found. Therefore, I can safely assume that it is neither a Microsoft file or one from another "standard" application.

I would open the registry and do a search for any reference to that file. If found, I'd remove any and all references to it. Then I would run "sysedit" (from Start - Run), and see if there is any reference to a file or application of that name in the Autoexec.bat, config.sys, win.ini, system.ini, or protocol.ini. If found there, I'd remove those lines as well.

If those suggestions turn up nothing, and you're sure there's no virus, then the only option you may have is to reload Windows. I'd try first to install over itself, then perhaps a clean install.

Good luck,

Maxwell

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SAINRAT.DLL missing in Windows 98 SE

by Shanghai Sam In reply to SAINRAT.DLL missing in Wi ...

As I said above, this particular name appears nowhere, not only in the registry or the system files, but nowhere on the disks, either as a file name, a reference to a file, or even a string within any file present on my disks ! It just pops up undermy nose form time to time, taunting me. Once I could trace the calling process using Borland's Winsight32 : its name was (black square)?. interesting, wasn't it ? as Windows displays a black square for any ASCII code it can't display, this makes quite a lot of string combinations to search throughout 120 GB of hard disks !

Reinstalling Windows "over itself" does nothing, of course, and a "near clean" reinstall (as decribed above) did nothing either.

By the way, I'm now experiencing slow downs and low memory alerts (with 512 MB SD-RAM !) since I changed for a Pentium 4, but it is said that there is a problem with Windows 98 kernel dealing with fast processors and large disks (2 x 60 GB in my case). It is said there is a patch for that, so I'll download and try it.

The last thing I could do would be to restart from scratch, but it will be quite long to reload all my work environment.

Just to finish replying to your inquiry, I run as few background applications as I can. I consider a clean Windows installation is achieved when you get less than one page of background tasks when you press CTRL+ALT+DEL...

One last thing : consider reading other people's answers (and my answers to their answers !) before (as me say in french) "smash open doors" !

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