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    salary vs. over time


    by emplymint ·

    just curious, has anyone been told they are not entitled to overtime because they are on salary?

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    • #2685377

      Thats how they get you

      by av . ·

      In reply to salary vs. over time

      If you’re salaried, you are exempt from getting paid for overtime. That doesn’t mean you won’t work overtime though. A Net Admin job always has overtime.

      The game is that they hire you for a certain salary based on a 40 or 35 hour week. But you are expected to put in extra time (for no pay) when things come up – upgrades, unplanned down time, etc.

      What I do now is take comp time for extra hours. Some companies will not allow you to do that either though because of the Human Resources Dept. rules. But usually a good boss will work something out with you.

      To get paid overtime, you have to have non-exempt status (meaning lower pay).

      • #2685370

        Yes, but…

        by madroxxx ·

        In reply to Thats how they get you

        There are pretty strict requirements about who can qualify for exempt status. For example if you have staff, or a certain portion of your work is done without supervision.

        From my experience most companies really don’t follow these rules prefering to get us slave laborers to work 50 hours for 40 hours pay.

    • #2685352

      Just because a company doesn’t HAVE to pay. . .

      by maxwell edison ·

      In reply to salary vs. over time

      …overtime compensation to a salaried employee, doesn’t mean that they can’t pay, or won’t pay, if they so choose.

      I’m salaried, and I get paid 1.5 overtime for hours over 40 (or comp time, if I prefer).

      • #2684784

        You are an exception

        by av . ·

        In reply to Just because a company doesn’t HAVE to pay. . .

        Most companies will not pay overtime for salaried employees. They will give comp time. The way things are today with the tech job market, I don’t think I would push for overtime pay.

    • #2685164

      are any of you in New York?

      by emplymint ·

      In reply to salary vs. over time

      One federal court in New York has just decided that some classifications of system administrators are entiteld to OT even if they are salaried and the amount of salary you earn is not relevant. Large companies with highly institutionalized compensation structures are most likely to violate this rule by trying to force system admins into a preexisting comp categories. Financial service companies and banks are getting hit for this recently. I know someone who just got enough $ to put a downpayment on a house all in back comp for unpaid overtime. He had this small lawfirm in New York contact the comapny and within a couple of months they wrote him a check. They didn’t even put up a fight.

    • #2671888

      Well I come from Queersland Aust

      by hal 9000 ·

      In reply to salary vs. over time

      And over here if we get a salery we do not get overtime but some companies do allow you time off in leiu which of course never happens because you’re job is too busy.

      To me it is a fairly normal pratice not getting any overtime when on a salery and everyone that I know works the same way it all comes with the job.

      Actually it is not so much a question of not being entitled to working overtime but one of getting paid for any overtime that you work as the Salery is susposed to cover this.

      After all that is why a Salery is greater than the miminum wage but if you are getting minimum wage and it is being called a Salery then you are getting screwed by the company and some do this to save money but what is even funner is that people jump on the bandwagon thinking that they are on a good thing and the term “Salery” means that they are better than the rest of the staff who work for wages.

      In my experience the only people to get saleries are managment positions and these positions are considered different to normal wage positions as you are responsible for whatever department you are running and it means a different kind of work where you are susposed to represent your department to the best of you’re ability to managmant and at the same time represent the managmant position to you’re staff when a decission is made. It is sought of a ballancing act where you are susposed to represent both sides equially and impartially but once a decission is made follow it to the letter.

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