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SATA & IDE WILL NOT BOOT XP

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I have a Bootable 120Gb IDE Drive with Windows XP Media Installed.
I just installed 2 x 500gb SATA Samsung Hard Drives with a New PCI SATA Controller with 2x internal Ports. Current Driver installed for NON RAID configuration.
My Problem being:
When trying to Boot the computer with the SATA Drives connected I get the black screen telling me the 2 drives have been discovered and press CTRL-s to go into the RAID setup if required, a few seconds later the screen goes black and nothing happens.
I shut down and disconect the 2 SATA drive cables from the drives and reboot, I get the flash screen discovering the PCI SATA Controller with no drives, then Windows Boots without problem.
Once booted into Windows I can connect the SATA drive cables and the drives are discovered and mounted within MyComputer, I have Partioned both drives to 250GB each and Set the 4x drive letters as D,E,F,G, then numbered my CD/DVD's to H,I and my Recovery Partion to R
System is a 2002 HP Pavillion 883n with 2GB RAM and 2.6Ghz Pntium 4 CPU Raedon 9600 256 G/Card
I have not tried it with IDE Drive removed as I'm sure I will just have a non operating system and no way to access the recovery partion, which I have a copy on one of the sata Drives.

Any useful help will be apprieciated
Koolacid

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by thechas

You need to check your boot device order in BIOS setup.

It sounds like SCSI or controller card is set with a higher priority than the internal ISE drive.

If both your IDE and SATA drives are on plug-in controller cards, you may need to change which slots the cards are in to change the boot order.

Chas

by tech

Thanks for the input, the IDE controller slots are directly on the motherboard, the Bios autodetects, but does not see the SATA drives at all, the boot order is such that it will page every device it can boot from until it finds one regardless of selection, it is currntly set to start looking to boot from CD then HD, as I occasionally boot from CD.

by thechas

One more thing to check here, with the SATA drives connected, which hard drive shows up as the first boot device.

Another thing is that you may need to enter the SATA RAID setup and tell it to not configure the drives as a RAID array.

You should check the manual for the SATA controller and verify that you can use it in a non-RAID configuration.

Back when the first generation of on-board SATA controllers came out, they were RAID only controllers. Even if you only connected one drive you had to enter the SATA RAID setup and configure the drive as a single volume array.

Unless I am reading your boot sequence description wrong, it sounds like the SATA controller screen is coming up before the Windows boot sequence starts. If so, your problem is an issue of the SATA controller and the BIOS on your motherboard.

Chas

by oh smeg

is causing the problem here. With SATA Drives attached the SATA Driver is not installed so the system is hanging but after the system loads you can connect the SATA Drives and have them working because the SATA Driver was loaded to Windows and not the Windows Installer and is being activated too late for the system to work correctly.

What may be required here Repair Install and include the SATA Drivers at the very beginning but if you only have the HP Recovery Disc available you'll most likely need to reinstall the OS as the HP Recovery Disc doesn't support the option to do a Repair Install.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341

Col

by tech

Thank you for your input, and the link to microsoft, it certainly seems to me that my windows needs to be repair installed, with the new pci driver being available earlier. Microsoft link talks of my HAL table needing to be updated. I think that sounds a likely fix.
I have 5Gb Image of XP and software that wrirtes the whole of drive C: or I can install the software only or the drivers only, but HP didn't supply this driver how do I intergrate it into a new repair install, I also have8 CD's that write the 5GB image but doesn't offer any different solution. I have a valid XP Key can i apply that to a stand alone xp media edition disk

Thank you

by oh smeg

They only support a replacement of the entire system so if they are used they blow away existing Data and replace it with the Image that they contain.

If you have a M$ Branded Install Disc you can do a repair Install but it has to be a M$ Branded & Supplied Install Disc. What you are attempting to work with is a Image created from a Slipstreamed Recovery Disc.

What you need to do here is to use a M$ Branded Install Disc and when the first blue screen appears you press the [b]F6 Key[/b] and when prompted you need to insert a Floppy with the PCI Controller Driver copied to the Root of a Floppy Disc.

But before you even attempt this what is actually happening here? Do you see the Normal BIOS or Splash Screen than the PCI Controllers Card BIOS Screen showing you what is attached? The PCI Cards BIOS should show after the Computers BIOS appears and it should list the Attached Drives. If this isn't appearing there is most likely a Hardware Conflict occurring but you may need to switch off the Splash Screen in BIOS and see what is actually happening as the BIOS of the PCI Card may appear as Text on the screen after the POST Procedure closes. If this is what is happening here you will not see the SATA Controller Cards BIOS as the Splash Screen of the Computers BIOS will be covering it up.

You need to make sure that the hardware is working correctly before you attempt to do any more. If you are being asked to enter data for the SATA Controller Card to continue and the drives are present on it even if you do not see them if you are asked to setup a RAID Array you need to install the RAID Drivers before Windows Loads. But if the SATA Controller Card isn't correctly identifying the HDD's attached it is a Hardware problem with most likely a Conflict between the Chip Sets of the M'Board and PCI Card. This will be most likely to happen with Non Intel Chip Sets so if you have a NVidia or SIS Chip Set on the M'Board it may be reacting to the Chip Set of the SATA Controller Card and causing a problem. Or it may just be that the SATA Controller Card needs to have the required Drivers installed before Windows starts to load.

Without knowing what the actual hardware is it's very hard to say what is happening here.

Also Recovery Disc's are only any good for the Original Hardware if this is changed in any way they can be useless as a way to rebuild the Software after a failure. If that is the case you need to start off with a M$ Branded and Supplied Install Disc which generally means you need to buy another License for your Hardware. One of the major disadvantages of buying off the shelf as you don't get Install Media just Recovery Media which is cheaper for the System Makers to supply. It's even better if you have to supply the Blank Media as the costs to the system maker is negligible for Recovery Media.

If you have access to a M$ Branded Install Disc it needs to be the Same Version of Windows to use your Product Key so if you have a XP Pro Volume License Product installed you need a XP Pro Volume License Install Disc. If you have a XP Home of XP Media Center version of Windows installed you need to use a XP Home Disc to install XP and use your Product Key or you need to use a XP Media Center Install Disc so you can use your Product Key and have it work.

Col

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