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Security Vs. Hackers

By boris ·
Who is winner?

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Who am I?

by Shanghai Sam In reply to Security Vs. Hackers

I worked in security consulting. I learned many thinks and red many books about it. At some moment I understood hackers strategy, but i never saw something special in their attacks. I saw good ones and bad ones.
to be continued....

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I didn't know this was a contest ;>

by admin In reply to Security Vs. Hackers

You mean: security vs. criminal crackers, don't you?
I assume you are not under the misguided media attacks on the very people who have brought this whole industry (well yes, somewhat accidently) to where it is from Arpanet on. You may want to visit the disussion here:

to learn more about "The Hacking Lexicon".

If this is what you meant, neither wins. It's more work for everyone. Personally, I like to lay around in the sun more than making security increasingly insane.

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Thank you for pointing that out.

by freight_train10 In reply to I didn't know this was a ...

If it's a contest...I pick the "hackers", as you labled them. If you want see both tools to use as a "hacker" and aginst one on my site:

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Yeap HACKERS would win the competition!!

by Kima In reply to Thank you for pointing th ...

Why, well very simple because hackers love challenges, they are usually between the ages of 12 and 17 have more time and knowledge than some SECURITY Administrators who only learn what they were taugh in COLLEGE or TECHNICAL SCHOOL but never had thetime to really learn HACKING TECHNIQUES all the way.... unless they were hackers before...HACKERS SPEND 24/7 on a computer learning and taking up challenges if they have too...

Besides there are more HACKERS out there than SECURITY ADMINS, if youcan prove otherwise then we can argued about it...

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hackers rule!!!

by carbon14 In reply to Yeap HACKERS would win th ...

the way it stands at the moment the hackers win hands down but...

the future looks very interesting as hackers are turning to security administration. it will be hackers versus ex-hackers. that should be a much more even contest.

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HACKERS are HACKERS Regardless....

by Kima In reply to hackers rule!!!

Whether they turn to be SECURITY or just HACKERS it doesn't matter. HACKER is somebody who can penetrate somebody elses system with the minimum detection or make it a deal to find out who got on his system without his permission.

Keep in mind that not all HACKERS are criminal, some of them just do it for fun only with no intention what so ever to make damage. It really depends on the person to tell you the truth and yes you're right since they can get PAID VERY WELL for testing security, HACKERS are becoming SECURITY ADMINISTRATORS.

Eventually it might get even HACKER against HACKER but right now HACKERS RULE>>>>>>>>

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by admin In reply to HACKERS are HACKERS Regar ...

Ever hear of DefCon?

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by DukeBytes In reply to Eventually?

funny no one posted anything else after you said that....

geez its just a place that sell sunglasses...

<slap>Duke</slap> *grin*

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Not all hackers are hackers

by generalist In reply to HACKERS are HACKERS Regar ...

Also note that not all hackers are people who try penetrating other systems.

A lot of hackers are software and hardware types who are experts in what they do. In some instances, they know more about the products they use than the vendor does. (It gets interesting when they notify the vendor of a problem and provide fully functional solutions, with enhancements, to the problem.)

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Definition of a HACKER

by Kima In reply to Not all hackers are hacke ...

Definition of a hacker:

1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary.

2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming.

3. A person capable of appreciating hack value.

4. A person who is good at programming quickly.

5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in "a Unix hacker". (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.)

6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example.

7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations.

8. (Deprecated) A malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence "password hacker", "network hacker". The correct term is cracker.

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