Setting up a separate routing system behind another router

By garbage911a ·
I have a (Japanese) RV-230se router, which I am can`t seem to find a way to open ports for inter-home network comm with.

Behind that, I thought I would set up a DI-524 d-link router and run my real network from there. Problem is, I need my rv router to connect to my isp etc., but it is giving me trouble with the home networking(viewing pcs is explorer, etc.). Is it possible to make the DI router think that it is looking at an ISP(actually the rv-230se) setup? It seems I have the ability to set up static dhcp address assignments, and I know what my gateway, as well as what windows thinks is the local dns(when a windows pc connects to the rs router).

Any idea how I can configure my DI-524?

I admit I am probably quite mixed up in my knowledge of networking, so any and all advice will be humbly appreciated.

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Which ports CAN you open?

by Absolutely In reply to Setting up a separate rou ...

I have a (Japanese) RV-230se router, which I am can`t seem to find a way to open ports for inter-home network comm with.

At a minimum, ports 53 & 80 will need to be open for DNS & http. Also, one or both of 67/68 for DHCP. If you make enough progress for me to be helpful to you, I'll look that up.

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About those ports...

by garbage911a In reply to Which ports CAN you open?

When you say that the above ports need to be open, are you speaking of the ports for the router behind the router connected to the internet(d-link), or the one connected to the internet(rsv router)?

I will take a look at the d-link router, but can't seem to find any way to change port settings for the rsv-230 router

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One thing at a time.

by Absolutely In reply to About those ports...

If you can get one computer connected to the Internet through either router, the warp drive to Vega might be an exaggeration. The bits about the maple stump and the white-painted-tire-planters and Mr. Johnson's field still apply, however.

To get that one computer browsing the web, you need your router to accept and transmit [forward] packets from your LAN with destination ports 68 for DHCP, 53 for DNS, and 80 for http. That's minimal web browsing, email clients use different ports.

This is still seeming worthwhile to you?

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Internet connection

by garbage911a In reply to One thing at a time.

I am able to access the internet from any of the pcs behind the jp rsv router. I found the place to mess with port block/enabling for the jp router, but now I guess it does not matter in this case?

I am assuming that I need to find a way to open some of these ports for WAN->LAN and vice versa for the secoond router?

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Not to discourage you but....

by robo_dev In reply to Setting up a separate rou ...

Using multiple routers on a home network does not work well. Most SOHO routers do not have the features to do lan-to-lan routing. Add to that your stated networking knowledge limits....

My recommendation would be to scrap the NTT router and put the DI-524 in place of it.

If the NTT has a DSL modem built in, either get another DSL modem, or reconfigure it to be in "bridge mode", IF that's possible (my knowledge of NTT routers is lacking).

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I would have to second this

by Dumphrey In reply to Not to discourage you bu ...

as the simplest config for the NTT router simply sets it up in a pass through config, doing nothing for you but adding a layer of hardware to fail. Unless you have a VERY specific reason to use the NTT, I would just use the DL-524. Setting up static ips, routing protocols (RIP) and making sure all traffic is being passed is more trouble then its worth, unless you just want the exercise?
In theory, you could set up the WAN iface on the NTT to use DHCP, and to pass that along to its DHCP clients, thus taking care of DNS and DHCP. The only client it would be serving, would be the WAN iface of your DL router, also set to use DHCP, and getting an IP address and DNS info from the NTT router. The DL would then in turn pass this to your workstations. It should work, but would be slow, and most likely unreliable, NATing a NATed packet is not best practice.

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So in other words:

by robo_dev In reply to I would have to second th ...

You can't get thar from here....

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Well, you can

by Dumphrey In reply to So in other words:

but you have to cut across Mr Johnsons field, take a left at the big ol' oak, drive about 12 miles a sthe crow flies, then look for a stump of an old Maple... it will have a garden Gnome on top, and several old tires painted white and turned into planter...well, when you see that, your just about there, Next you need to warp into section 7 of the Vega cluster, gather 12 tons of Nitrogen, and use this to dump you into alter-space, from where you can get there in a jiff...

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That was going to be my response....

by robo_dev In reply to Well, you can

except it would have involved more soldering, explosives, and micro-code development.

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Bridge Mode

by garbage911a In reply to Not to discourage you bu ...

Is the bridge mode you are speaking of

PPPoE Bridge(enabled currently)
IPv6 Bridge(enabled currently), for wired LAN
IPv6 Bridge(disabled currently), for wireless LAN.

If this is the bridge mode you speak of, what config is necessary with the second router/pcs behind it?

Do I set one static address for the router, and then not use the ntt router for dhcp routing at all(for example)?

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