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We are converting to NT 4.0 from Netware 4.2. In Netware we mapped an F: drive to the DATA volume. Based on the groups you belong to you can only see certain folders. We want to do the same with NT, but can’t seem to get it to work. We have a DATA volume on the NT server, F: locally. We can’t seem to get the comination of shares, hidden shares and permissions to work. We dont’ want to have to map 10 differnt drives, just one F: drive. We can limit access to the folders users aren’t supposed to access, but can hide them from view. Please advise.

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Unfortunately to traverse a group of folders the use needs at least read rights to the parent folder to see the sub folder. Try looking into using DFS (Distributed File System) and see if that meets your requirements.

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Hide network shares doesn’t work that way.
When you give someone access to a mapped drive normally they would be able to to see all folders and files from that point. The hidden shared means when you browse from the network you wont see it.
If would like to hide the folder you have to de-select the list option in advanced security, but then you can not traverse to the other folders, you will need at least read right to that.But then they will see the drive (what you dont wanted).
In general you are going against the practices of MS and other fellow sysadmins by doing this. Traverse permissions is not recommended and by making 1 shared folder the main entry point.
Setting up the different shares is more work in the beginning but much easier to maintain later.
Regarding the whole migrating issue I will look up something about migrating from Novell which could make things easier for you.

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Leopold

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MS KB Article ID: Q298462
Resources for Migrating from Novell NetWare to Windows NT 4.0

Has several casestudies and before and after considerations for a migration from novell to nt.

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You’ve run up against one of the major differences between the NT 4.0 and Novell file systems and security settings. You just simply can’t do what you want to do the same way you’d do it on Novell. What many NT admins do is create top-level sharesby group and then each shared group folder contains the folders and files that that group of users needs to access. For common shared folders, like the “Users” share that everyone creates, that all users need to access, you just have to accept the fact that users will be able to see folders that they do not actually have permission to open. If they don’t have permission, they’ll get a permission denied message, but they will still be able to see the folders. I ran across this 5-6 years ago when I did my first Novell to NT conversion. Somes users (particularly those who had sensitive info stored on the server) were a bit taken aback at first, but learned to accept it as they were reassured that others could not actually browse any folders that they weren’t supposed to. BTW, why not convert directly to Win2K? – it has file system and security capabilities more comparable to those in Novell. Hope this helps!

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Simple answer…you can’t. This is a major diference between Netware and NT(LanManager). YOu can come close to what you want but no cigar. I have been networking mixed environments since NT came out. You just have to create the shares and permissions as you want them and users will be able to see the diretories but not able to access data.
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