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Hi!
I don't know where you can find it in writing and I don't understand why you would need this information.
I'm not sure about this information, but since the sids are in a database of some sort you could in theory have ifninite many sids.
In real life the computer hd, ram, cpu and such will pose restrictions on the number due to lack of resources.
/Hasse
PS! I'm not sure of this, but anyway it's enough to at least being able to run 40000 users in the same domain so this is the minimum number of sids I know NT can handle. D.S.
by mtkovach
by leastar
Windows NT receommends disabling and renaming a user for the simple reason of keeping the rights & permissions in the event that another person takes over the previous users responsabilities. That way you do not have to go through the hassle of adding the new user to all the same groups as the previous user. This works in the event you have the account defined by the job instead of the users name.
For your proof of how many there are- on page 351 of the book titled Mastering Windows NT Server 4 Fifth Edition it states; " ...there are 4 billion (SIDs) so you're not likely to run out." Very interesting read so take a look.
Leastar
by mtkovach
That is only one reason, and the most popular for ordinary users, that Microsoft recommends disabling vice deleteing. There has been one case that I have heard of (but have not been able to find it in writing) where a company ran out due to deletion. This obviously was in the begining of NT and the company was a large enterprise with heavy turnover. Anyway I know exactly the book and section you are talking about. I realize that under normal circumstances you would never run out of SIDS but that is precisely the reason I am asking. Somewhere someone (Microsoft) has had to either; A)Done the mathematical computation or, B)Had a lot of time on their hands and tried to use them all. Thanks for your help and if you should happen to come acrosssome more info please pass it along. Thanks again.
mtkovach
MCP; Control Tech.
by james_randy
by mtkovach
Greetings,
You have a very interesting question. I don't know why you would ask it, but it is interesting nonetheless. It tweaked my interest so I invested a few minutes, and I came up with the following answer.
Your question is, "What is the maximum number of SIDS available in Windows NT 4.0"?
The answer is "unlimited". My reason is as follows:
SID stands for Security Identifier and is used within NT as a value to uniquely identify an object such as a user or a group. The SID assigned to a user becomes part of the access token, which is then attached to any action attempted or process executed by that user or group. If a duplicate SID did exist then all users with this SID would authenticate as what would be seen as thesame user. It is possible for cloned machines to have the same SID, which would be seen by the authentication mechanism as the same machine. The SID under normal operation will be unique and will identify an individual object such as a user, group or a machine.
Since a SID is attached to an individual object such as a user, group or a machine, one is led to ask, "What is the maximum number of users, groups, and computers in a domain"?
The answer is, "There is NO physical limit in Windows NT 4.0".
Therefore, the number of SIDs possible is "unlimited".
Sources (where you might find it in writing):
http://secinf.net/info/nt/ntfaq/security27.html
http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBC/tip1000/rh1023.htm
Regards,
Maxwell
(I must have way too mucj time on my hands.)
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