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September 30, 2006 at 8:48 pm #2248473
Slave drive not showing in W.E.
Lockedby d.h. cesare · about 16 years, 4 months ago
I just installed an 80G WD slave drive in my WinXP Pro machine. The drive shows up in the SETUP screen, it shows up in Device Manager and it shows that it is working properly, but it does not show in Windows Explorer. I uninstalled & reinstalled the drivers but that didn’t fix the problem. The drive still shows to be working properly.
How can I get the drive to show in WE?
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October 1, 2006 at 6:52 am #3139173
I’ve often seen this problem, it usually goes away
by deadly ernest · about 16 years, 4 months ago
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once the drive is formatted in a format recognised by that version of WE.
Sometimes, putting it in as the secondary master will also fix the problem.
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October 1, 2006 at 10:03 am #3139132
How to format…..
by d.h. cesare · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to I’ve often seen this problem, it usually goes away
How can I format it if I don’t know the drive letter designation? “C” is primary, “D” is
CD-ROM, “E” is CD/DVD-RW. I would format it if I knew how to get at it.-
October 2, 2006 at 6:08 pm #3141350
Ever heard of Disk Manager?
by why me worry? · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to How to format…..
this isn’t Windows 95 or DOS
you need to partition the drive first and then format it
right click on My Computer and select “manage” from the menu
go to the disk management and you will see the new drive there
partition the new drive as primary and format it using NTFS with default cluster size
you can then change the drive letter if you wish after the format
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October 1, 2006 at 6:53 am #3139172
Did you format the new drive?
by techexec2 · about 16 years, 4 months ago
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Did you format the new drive? After physically installing a new drive, you must format it (put a file system on it like NTFS or FAT).
STEPS
1. Start->Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Computer Management
2. Computer Management->Storage->Disk Management
3. Locate your new 80 GB drive. WARNING: Be sure not to format your existing C: drive.
4. Select the new unformatted drive (click on it). Choose Action->All Tasks->Format.
5. I recommend you format your new drive with the NTFS file system.
Post back and let me know how it went.
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October 1, 2006 at 7:42 am #3139156
Agree – Even if the drive states
by lodai · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Did you format the new drive?
that it has been formatted. Most new drives require to be re-initialized (formatted) in order for them to be “seen” in WE.
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October 1, 2006 at 11:56 am #3139105
Initialized
by d.h. cesare · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Agree – Even if the drive states
I was able to “Initialize” the drive, but can not find a way to format it because it is unallocated. I do have a screen that wants to create a “simple” volume on that drive, but I am not sure exactly what that means. It’s in the same place in the Disk Management screen that FORMAT should be.
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October 1, 2006 at 12:26 pm #3139095
FORMATTED !!
by d.h. cesare · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Agree – Even if the drive states
Finally found the format command in the “New Volume” Wizard. I want to thank everyone for their help.
Have a good one.
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October 1, 2006 at 10:28 am #3139128
no format available
by d.h. cesare · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Did you format the new drive?
After I’ve gotten to “All Tasks”, format is not an option. “New Volume” is one option and Properties is the other. When I click on
New Volume, I get one option ->Simple. There are 5 types of volumes: simple, spanned, striped, mirrored and RAID-5. My only option is SIMPLE. I’m reluctant to go any further as I do not know exactly what’s going to happen, so the machine is setting here with the New Volume Wizard staring at me.-
October 1, 2006 at 10:52 am #3139122
Re: No Format Available
by the ice man · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to no format available
Since you do not have format as an option the drive is telling you it’s ready for a “volume” to be placed on the disk. Just create a volume it will then ask what type of volume it will be; simple – ie on a single disk, spanned on 2 or more disks for redundancy, striped similar to spanned but permits slight faster access of the data on the disk. Next will be which disk you want it on and how large of a volume to create (think of this as partions on the drive). Next will be asked for the drive letter to assign if any and the format of the drive/volume, ie fat, fat32, ntfs. Once the volume is created it will then begin formatting it, when done formatting it will show up in WE.
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October 1, 2006 at 2:28 pm #3139066
Got it
by d.h. cesare · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Re: No Format Available
Thank all of you for your guidance, especially TechExec2 for getting me started in the right direction. Everyone was very helpful.
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October 1, 2006 at 11:10 am #3139117
Keep going…
by techexec2 · about 16 years, 4 months ago
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Keep going. You’re doing exactly the right thing. Use the wizard to create a “simple” volume. The New Volume Wizard will also format the volume for you.
Post back with success or if you need more help.
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October 1, 2006 at 11:49 am #3139106
Partition and format from outside Windows
by kiltie · about 16 years, 4 months ago
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That would be the way I would tackle the problem.
You could use a 98 style start up floppy, or similar floppy based solution, all it needs is FDISK and FORMAT commands. If no floppy drive is available, there are bootable CD images of the same thing.
Or
Use a partition utility available from a Linux LiveCD, Hiren Boot CD, Ultimate Boot CD. There may also be other alternatives (Bart PE?? – not sure), but the main point is to do all this outside of your normal Windows OS.
Once formatted, reboot to Windows and Explorer should now see it.
CAVEAT: be very, very careful which drive you partition and format, to be safe DISCONNECT all hard drives except this one.
Shouldn’t this question be in Tech Q&A?
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October 1, 2006 at 12:37 pm #3139091
Kiltie: This was “Windows 1A: Introduction to Windows”
by techexec2 · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Partition and format from outside Windows
This was “Windows 1A: Introduction to Windows”.
Linux boot CD? That’s upper division stuff! 😉
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October 1, 2006 at 12:00 pm #3139103
Try this:
by dawgit · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Slave drive not showing in W.E.
Assuming WinXP, (or Win2k) Go to (your) “Administrative Tools”, (should be either under ‘Start’ or ‘Start\All Programs’), There you will see “Computer Management” Click on that and you’ll see a new panel. Once there go down to “Storage” and then to “Disk Management”. When you click on that a panel will show you all yoour drives. Click on your new drive and you’ll find the options to asign a dirve letter, as well as to partition it also. Be sure to mark it ‘active’ too. Piece of cake. -d
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October 1, 2006 at 8:00 pm #3138974
Never mark a drive ‘active’ except the boot drive
by deadly ernest · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Try this:
the active marking is the way to tell the system that it is the boot drive, and the system will look to its MBR for the directions. Do this to a slave drive and it will often cause the real boot drive to lose its ‘active’ setting and you can’t boot when it next restarts.
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October 2, 2006 at 1:47 am #3140331
now that would explain….
by dawgit · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Never mark a drive ‘active’ except the boot drive
some strange behavior. ;\ You are correct, but there have been times when I had to mark one active, to get full access to it to do what I wanted to do. Yes, I had forgoten to mention un-activating it afterwards. (before the next boot). There is one machine I have that has two seperate drives as active, But I had forgotten the extra work I had to do to prevent the problems you describe. (Drive 1 has OS, drive 2 has a program that drive 1 uses, but runs on drive 2. -don’t ask, it just works)
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October 2, 2006 at 5:42 am #3140285
This is a common event that comes about by
by deadly ernest · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to now that would explain….
loading the operating system on one drive, then replacing it with one on another. Lets identify the drives in the following manner – in this example I’m using my system that has two IDE and two SATA channels:
IDE Primary master = IPM
IDE Primary slave = IPS
IDE Secondary master = ISM
IDE Secondary slave = ISS
SATA Primary = S1
SATA Secondary = S2Assume I have hard drives in all (hey I got plenty of USB for DVDs)
I’m set the system up with Win2K on IPM, then dual boot with XP on IPS. Active is IPM, when I get around to blowing away W2K, the MBR of IPM will still be the boot drive, with the OS on IPS.
Now I install S1 and load Linux, in the process I make it the active drive and have its MBR load the boot file. I install S2 and load UNIX, leaving the MBR on S1 as the boot. I go crazy and delete, Linux and Unix, settling for just XP as the OS. Active boot system is now S1 with the OS still on IPS.
This situation usually occurs when you dual boot with an OS on two different physical drives, and delete the first loaded OS. Or you have a major issue with the OS, and reload a clean install on the second drive. The first still retains the MBR and active designation.
Older system insisted that the active drive had to be the master, new systems you can set any drive as the active.
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October 2, 2006 at 7:53 am #3140221
you wouldn’t try’n to..
by dawgit · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to This is a common event that comes about by
confuse me with that now would you? (I’ve seen that done though, what a mess) Actually, I have two seperate OSs, (one on disk ‘C’, and the other on disk ‘D’) a couple of programs that I use are on disc ‘D’, which is a complete OS (for diasters, can be used as main OS). For those silly licenceing reasons, I only have those ‘installed’ once. When I want to ultilize one I do so off that HD. (‘C’ is the operating OS, ‘D’ has the software running.) I know, text books say it don’t (can’t) work. (oh, well) -d
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October 2, 2006 at 9:02 am #3140164
I don’t know what text books you read, but
by deadly ernest · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to you wouldn’t try’n to..
at one time the recommended method for best performance was to have the operating system on one physical hard drive ‘C’, the applications you sue on another physical hard drive ‘D’, the data and virtual memory (page file now) on a third physical hard drive ‘E’. Not physical drives, not partitions. This was because the biggest delay in the computer was the time taken by the hard drive to find the relevant bits of data, etc and feed it over the bus to the CPU. They couldn’t send and seek to the same drive. So if it was all on one hard drive, they took turns, on different ones then all three could be accessed by the cpu at the same time.
Since then hard drive seek times have improved dramatically, and we’ve gone from 16 bit to 32 bit, and now 64 bit busses. they make a difference too.
What you’ve detailed wont harm the system at all. it should even give higher security, safety and a slightly better performance.
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October 2, 2006 at 6:14 am #3140261
Unactivating ??
by d.h. cesare · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to now that would explain….
I do not know what/how to unactivate. The machine seems to boot with no problems. The drive shows as “Healthy”. Everything seems to be working the way it’s supposed to.
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October 2, 2006 at 7:44 am #3140225
Good, don’t…
by dawgit · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Unactivating ??
change anything.!. :0 You have to excuse us old farts in this, sometimes we get a littled carried away doing un-norm things ;\ (to most users, anyway) B-)
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October 2, 2006 at 8:56 am #3140170
If it’s a workin’ don’t go afixin’ it – you may bust it
by deadly ernest · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Unactivating ??
basic rule of staying alive. naturally the rule doesn’t apply to a working time bomb you wish to have stopped.
if the system boots OK, then don’t worry. Some systems it can be an issue, but for many modern ones it isn’t.
edited to fix typo in title that affected the meaning ‘do and don’t’ aren’t the same.
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October 3, 2006 at 1:23 am #3141280
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October 1, 2006 at 4:49 pm #3139021
I know you got it working, but my question is
by danlm · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Slave drive not showing in W.E.
Did the new drive come with a cd? I only buy western digitalis, so I am unsure of other drives. But the Western Digital setup cd will format the drive for you outside of windows. Gives you partition options too.
What type of drive was it?
Dan
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October 1, 2006 at 8:22 pm #3138964
drive type
by d.h. cesare · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to I know you got it working, but my question is
I use almost exclusively Western Digital. This one did not come with anything; no diskettes, no CD’s. Bare bones drive I bought last year and it’s just been sitting around waiting to be useful. Now that I know how to use the Computer Manager window a little, I won’t worry about the little things anymore. That procedure is slick and easy. Has to be easy for me to do it.
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October 3, 2006 at 1:37 am #3141277
Download
by cely · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to drive type
I use Maxtor discs myself and you can usually download the utility programs from their main site if you buy oem discs as I usually do. I would think you’ll find the same for WD.
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January 6, 2007 at 3:16 am #2488653
i also used same
by deepak_parajuli · about 16 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Download
i also download some thing in my computer. if you want then i will give. my email address is deepak_parajuli@hotmail.com. and i want ur email address also.
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October 2, 2006 at 2:37 am #3140324
You need to initialize it first in Disk Management
by georgeou · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Slave drive not showing in W.E.
Right click “My Computer” and hit “Manage”. Note that the “My Computer” shortcut does not work, you need to use desktop settings to reveal it to get to the manage option. Setting XP to classic view also shows this.
Once you get in to “manage”, you go to “Disk Management”. From there, you can initialize a drive.
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October 2, 2006 at 5:37 am #3140289
aah, good morn’n George
by dawgit · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to You need to initialize it first in Disk Management
I think I (we) already covered that. (see above posts) But it’s good to see you popping up- -d
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October 2, 2006 at 7:23 am #3140230
Go to drive management
by w2ktechman · about 16 years, 4 months ago
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and partition/format the drive
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October 2, 2006 at 11:38 am #3140083
ORIGINAL POSTER HAS SOLVED HIS PROBLEM
by techexec2 · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to Slave drive not showing in W.E.
To save you from unnecessary effort…
The original poster has solved his problem as noted here:
http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-11183-0.html?forumID=89&threadID=201726&messageID=2102430
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October 2, 2006 at 2:45 pm #3139984
What I usually do in such a situation
by eddie n · about 16 years, 4 months ago
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Assumption #1: the Slave drive actually does work, it has no defects or anything like that.
Assumption #2: you don’t want to use the Secondary Master slot instead of the Primary Slave one for the drive (or you can’t use it, because the CD-ROM or whatever is occupying it).
1. Power down the machine, take out the slave drive, and make sure that the data cable is placed in the right orientation, that the power cable is plugged in it, and (most especially) that the jumpers are set properly. If you have the jumpers set for Master and yet the drive is meant to be a Slave, there’s going to be trouble.
Plug it all back. Power on the machine. Then,
2. whether the drive shows up in Device Manager or not (and assuming you haven’t put anything on the Slave drive yet), use Windows to re-partition and re-format the drive. Since you are using Windows XP Pro, make sure that you format the drive using NTFS.
Reboot the machine. The problem should be solved. However, if it still doesn’t recognize the drive in Windows Explorer, then
3. Go to Device Manager. Remove the drive from the list, then press F5 or click the “Check for new Plug-and-Play hardware” button on the toolbar. Device Manager will probably show a couple of Taskbar balloons as it finds the new hardware, etc. (You may have to reboot the machine at this point, but not usually.)
Now, go to Windows Explorer. It should be visible now. If it still cannot be seen in Windows Explorer, then either
4a. Press the F5 key to refresh the display,
or
4b. Just type in the drive letter of the Slave drive in the address bar, followed by a colon, and then hit Enter. You may be surprised that it will show up then.
Now, if after all of this, it STILL hasn’t shown up in Windows Explorer, you may have to call in the Ghostbusters 🙂
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October 3, 2006 at 1:41 am #3141275
LOL
by cely · about 16 years, 4 months ago
In reply to What I usually do in such a situation
“Now, if after all of this, it STILL hasn’t shown up in Windows Explorer, you may have to call in the Ghostbusters.”
Go on, admit it, you only typed all that just so you could get the punchline in! 🙂
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October 11, 2006 at 11:17 pm #3281241
how to check it
by rahmat5101030 · about 16 years, 4 months ago
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my harddisk mas deteck in my BIOS but after we enter to windows….the drive wasnt…we don’t know how to get it….please recomd
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