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Sloooooooow boot in Win98se

By janajaf ·
A PC on our LAN is taking forever (up to 5 min) to boot now. It is a PentIII 450 with 128 Ram, 13G Harddrive running Win98se. It does have printer/scanner/zip drive on USB hub ports, modem & DSL connected & 2 NIC's. I have run scan, defrag, cleaned out all old programs and files, made startup lean etc. This machine also crashes frequently and is often very slow. System resources show 75% free. Running several of the on-line bench checks show nothing wrong but do comment that Hard drive runs seems slow for the system. My question - Where do I go from here? Should I just give up and replace the drive or is there something I'm missing. All good ideas welcome.

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by Raffi_ In reply to Sloooooooow boot in Win9 ...

There are a few other things to check before you go replacing a drive (that may or may not be the problem).

As in any troubleshooting scenario SIMPLIFY and change one thing at a time and record the results so that you know what is going on and what you have tried.

1. Have you re-installed the OS from scratch?
2. I have seen a machine hang like this after we replaced the modem and did not completely delete the old drivers and config.
3. Has the user been messing around with the BIOS?
4.Change the BIOS to make sure that it is doing a FULL memory check on boot.
5. If the RAM is in 2 x 64 then withdraw one and boot. Better? If not, replace it, withdraw the other one and check.
6. Why 2 NICs? Looking for a DHCP server, or other network resources that it cannot reach, will cause a machine to hang at GUI initialize.

In summary - I would suspect point number 6 first. Improper network setup can cause a lot of performance problems.

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by janajaf In reply to Sloooooooow boot in Win9 ...

Good ideas all but not for this stubborn case and it was super slow even before the double NIC cards (which are for network and DSL).

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by reeree In reply to Sloooooooow boot in Win9 ...

I would identify the hard drive manufactuer and go to there web site and download the diagnostic software. Alot of hd manufacturers require you to run the test before they will give you a RMA number to return the drive anyway. Just be careful. The more extensive test will write to the drive, meaning you will lose all info on the drive. I agree with everything said by the person who responded before I did, but this is a fairly quick step to ensure the integrity of the hard drive

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by janajaf In reply to Sloooooooow boot in Win9 ...

This I had not tried and although all seems fine it was a different suggestion which I had not thought of. Will use other times.

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by Peyison In reply to Sloooooooow boot in Win9 ...

I would recommend booting without the USB hub. I had similiar problems and they were due to too many USB devices.

It would probably be good to get a faster hard drive, but a hard drive that's a little slow shouldn't be causing all these problems.

Good luck.

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by janajaf In reply to Sloooooooow boot in Win9 ...

Yes the number of USB devices has affected the speed but unfortunately it is not the whole answer. With the price of new systems so low we are going to get more of everything and redo. Because there is something else making sloooow.

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by janajaf In reply to Sloooooooow boot in Win9 ...

To all who answered - Thanks for the quick and serious replies. I am going to try in order: 1)uninstalling all USB peripherals and if that works adding them back one by one 2) reinstall OS 3)stripping of all network connections etc. I had already chkd BIOS - all ok and 2 NIC's is for LAN & separate DSL modem. After that Hard drive mfg. Will let you all know. JAF

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by paule In reply to Sloooooooow boot in Win9 ...

If after removing the devices one by one does not cure the problem. Try deleting this key in the registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum
This will remove the all hardware, but leave the software intact. Have the driver's at hand, and print out the devicemanager first. Then install one device at a time and see if Windows identifies it.PHE

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by janajaf In reply to Sloooooooow boot in Win9 ...

Also good idea but decided not to do - am changing whole box instead. Once I have user taken care of I may try on own time.

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by jmatt In reply to Sloooooooow boot in Win9 ...

BOOT LOG ANALYZER. If your computer is booting slowly, this little
freeware utility at http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/ may identify
the source of the delay. The Boot Log Analyzer reports the delay with
loading each DLL (Dynamic Link Library) and identifies problems some
of the DLL may be having with properly loading. The BLA won't fix your
problems, but you might be better informed so you can either ditch
the offending software or go looking for a fix.
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Curing Sloooooooow Restarts
http://www.techweb.com/winmag/columns/explorer/2000/08.htm
http://216.230.195.137/newsletters/2000/2000-04-13.htm
http://216.230.195.137/newsletters/2000/2000-04-10.htm

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