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Spyware and the advertisers.

By Michaeltech ·
I would like to put this forward for discussion. Currently for two weeks I have been battling a silent install of a spyware product. (Yeah I went through a boring day and played a few online games where one did the install.

The question is I have spyware on my machine that pops up advertisements. One of the advertisement is for software to remove spyware. On a very thin line could this be considered extortion? The only thing that would make it not fit is that the advertisement does NOT come up and say "You have spyware on your machine and to get rid of it you can/must buy this product" At the least this is dishonest advertising. The spyware programs are prety well hidden and hard to get to but why can't the law go after the advertisers? I think it is ethically wrong to advertise a product to solve a problem by way of that problem.

Also that spyware problem,

Adaware, CWShredder, Aboutbuster and a look at the logs using hijackthis have failed to find the files responsible for my Hijack.
Anyone have any thoughts on finding this.
(I even looked at the registry bypassing the Registry vulnerability of hidden keys by creating a long key string)

No reg entries, DLLs or ocx files on my machine that I can find are out of the ordinary.

THank you on both matters


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by TonytheTiger In reply to Spyware and the advertise ...

You'd never be able to prove that the "advertiser" had any knowledge that their advertisement was being used this way.

I don't know how some of this stuff manages to get on my computer either. I do not use an administrative account for day-to-day operations... only when necessary to install software or something, and still I occasionally get something.

I would like to see something like a "do not install adware on my computer" cookie that all adware-containing programs were required to check for and not install if it is present.

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by Michaeltech In reply to problem

Thats true. But why is that, Couldn't a start on this be laws making business's that advertise responsible for who they contract to do their advertising. The problem are antiquated laws that don't work. Ideally this duscussion could make a difference and help change the laws. reality says that it is only a discussion but if it sparks anything hey you never know who is reading....

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Jurisdiction one problem

by TonytheTiger In reply to Right

Some advertisers are based outside the US. The other is that the advertiser doesn't always know who is hawking their product, nor do they have direct control over the mode of advertising. What we would end up with then is litigation to see who's 'fault' it is, the cost of which would be passed along to the consumer.

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Spybot might find it

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Spyware and the advertise ...

What does the traffic display on your firewall say ?
You should be able to see it hitting a particular IP, if it's getting the ads off the net. If they are static see if you can find them.

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Spybot Blue screens my XP

by Michaeltech In reply to Spybot might find it

Spybot S&amp gives me a Bluescreen about 3/4 through a scan.

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by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Spybot Blue screens my XP

Never had a problem with it.

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Try Trend Micro Anti-Spyware

by NI70 In reply to Spyware and the advertise ...

Trend Micro has a fully functional evaluation version of their Anti-Spyware. It found some things AdAware and SpyBot S&amp didn't.

BTW, stop using Internet Explorer! Use Firefox!

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Firefox isn't all it's cracked up to be

by JRod86 In reply to Try Trend Micro Anti-Spyw ...

I hear everyone saying use Firefox, it's better than IE...well, in some ways yes, I even have it installed on my home PC. But, in the next breath the same people say, "if you can't view a webpage in firefox, just use IE!" What's the point then?

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Minority of pages

by Dr Dij In reply to Firefox isn't all it's cr ...

and you might think twice before opening some unknown page with popups in IE.

I've got a nasty bug: bookedspace / pacimedia. adaware and spybot detect it fine and remove it; after reboot it comes back before I run ANY programs.

Actually the trend micro figured it out, found it in startup reg key, not the startup menu:
HKLM \ software\microsoft\windows\currentversion \run\cfgmgr52
(not to be confused with cfgmgr32.dll which is valid pgm)

and also in hklm \ ... \run\vbouncer
and software \ wise solutions \ wise installation repair\

surprised adaware and spybot didn't do a complete job.
Am trying some other such as trend micro suggested above.

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That's some other people

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Firefox isn't all it's cr ...

I say if it does not work in FF then it's not worth looking at. Most of the sites that don't work in FF are ones that are going shaft you on the next browser event. The others are badly written.

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