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By RCOM ·
First, for those of you that format and start over please don't respond!

For the real tech's, this is really wierd. I have a Win ME box with Celoron 1G CPU (don't say it), 384MB ram, Gigabyte MB (VIA chipset). 2 Hard Drives, DVD, CDRW, Gforce4 w/64MB, ATI TV card, 3 case fans, 400W power supply. McAfee VS and firewall 6.0 with latest dat files.

Here is the issue, at times the PC will begin to pause by that I mean the mouse will act sparatic and come to a hault at times. The computer doesn't lock up or stop responding it just kind of pauses. After a second or two normal operation restarts. The stranger part is the clock will loose time. Like right now it's 4:00 and the PC time is at 3:42. If I reboot all is back to normal. Right nowI'm letting it go just to see how far the time will be delayed.

What I've done,
Checked battery and poewer supply to be at correct voltages.
Replaced 800 MHz CPU with 1 GHz.
Changed video card because the original had a cooling fan that wasn't working well. Glad I have a slot fan that assists with AGP cooling.
Reinstalled pretty much all the drivers for MB, mouse, video etc.
Scanned every file on the system to check or viruses.
Disabled system restore.
Stripped down running programs and services to bare minimum.

This usually occurs at random times and I haven't been able to pinpoint an event that starts the problem.

Help or suggestions?

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by opatzg In reply to strange puase/time proble ...

If you run without the virus scan software does the pausing go away? It looks like you've got plenty of power and processing power,do you need to run both hard disks? Try running the bootable drive only and see if that changes anything. Have you scandisked and defragged the drive recently?
Have you tried moving your swap file to your secondary drive so that it has less impact on your programs and operating system?
Just some thoughts, you seem very knowledgable and Other than fdisking and starting from scratch it looks like you're running out of options. The chas should have a few other ideas for you.
Good luck

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by opatzg In reply to strange puase/time proble ...

You mentioned changing cpu's, for cpu changes did you need to change jumper settings on the motherboard to handle timing issues? I did when using AMD k6 processors on an older board. You state it loses time, but the time is correct when you rebootor it seems to be ok logging passage of time after a reboot?

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by opatzg In reply to strange puase/time proble ...

The only other thing I can think of is your motherboard has a bad system clock. Time to change motherboards? If you put your hard drive in another computer does it then have time problems?

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by opatzg In reply to strange puase/time proble ...

I noticed the batch file uses deltree passing a yes response, I'd be cautious with that since deltree does have the capability to wipe the drive clean. I also noticed the del ff*.tmp, on my 98 machine scandisk creates file####.tmp is it different for ME? Not that anything here helps with the timing issue. Now in DOS did the time not change from the night before or was the time ok? I can't quite tell from the writing above. If the clock is not working in DOS I'd have to think the clock is bad but doesn't that run from the battery which also powers cmos? I think I'm back to the motherboard needs replacing or can you get the clock mechanism for your board?

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by RCOM In reply to strange puase/time proble ...

If I leave the system in DOS the time doesn't change.

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by Still_learning In reply to strange puase/time proble ...

Just a few thoughts, BIOS upgrade? How about Power Management, are you hearing devices powering down? Have you cleared out the temp and cookie files? Do you have adequate Virtual Memory and Swap File capacity? Hopw this helps.

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by RCOM In reply to strange puase/time proble ...

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by RCOM In reply to strange puase/time proble ...

Thanks for responses, To check I totally uninstalled the virus software. Sill happened. The computer runs really fast except it pauses and loses time. If it was just the pausing then that's one thing but losing time, that's another issue. I've started keeping a log when it does it so that after a day or 2 I can look at that to see if there's anything consistant. I'm writing down all programs, services etc and the time it.

The next thing that I'll try is the BIOS flash. Maybe there is corruption or something? I'll post results.

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by RCOM In reply to strange puase/time proble ...

Yes had to change switches for CPU install and this is a good point. If you're fimilar with Gigabyte boards they have white toggle switches on a blue block. Anyway the problem existed before changing any of the parts. Thanks.

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by RCOM In reply to strange puase/time proble ...

Someone mentioned the system clock (crystal) as the problem I've thought about that too. Don't know if it's a valid test but, I booted the computer to DOS and let it sit overnight. When I got up the time hadn't changed??

Someone else asked abouttemp files etc. The following is a batch file that runs each day on all my systems it cleans up the junk. I run it as a scheduled task instead of durring the boot process because I rarely reboot the computers. Someone from this forum posted a link to this batch.

@echo off
cd\
DELTREE /y c:\windows\history\*.* > NUL
DELTREE /y c:\windows\tempor~1\*.* > NUL
DELTREE /y c:\windows\temp\*.tmp > NUL
DELTREE /y c:\windows\cookies\*.* > NUL
DELTREE /y c:\windows\applic~1\micros~1\office\recent\*.* > NUL
DELTREE /y c:\windows\ShellIconCache
if exist del c:\windows\ff*.tmp
if exist del c:\windows\system\advert.dll
if exist del c:\windows\*.tmp

exit

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