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by jonmooney67

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so my computer is screwed.
conventional memory i cant fix, ive tried for 2.5 days straight and talked to a few tech helpers.

missing win.com and i cant seem to figure out how to get the stuff off my floppy disc [i copied win onto a disc from another comp] to my screwed comp...

Starting into msdos is the only real productive thing i can do....
i am wondering if i can do like system restore from msdos startup

it seems like my only other option

ps im working from windows 98

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by oh smeg

It came with the OEM Windows Install CD.

First boot off the floppy Boot Disc then insert the Floppy with the Copied Files CD to the Floppy Drive and copy these into the Directory where they belong through the DOS Copy Command.

I'm not really sure what you are on about with the Computer Screwed Comment but depending on how comfortable you are with editing and changing things it may be possible to repair. But if you are not comfortable with doing things then Yes you probably are Screwed. It really depends here on what you are prepared to do to fix the unit.

If worst comes to worst you could always blow away the install and all Data and install 98 again. As you haven't said here what you want to achieve it's hard to say any more.

Col

by jonmooney67

i have no discs or anything..

i want to acheive being able to get onto windows again... making more space and freeing up some memory.

i just wanna be able to get onto windows without having any of these problems... and like i said once i get on windows i will make my system much more stable.

by older mycroft

As I recall, there WAS a System Restore in Win98. It was called 'scanreg'.

Here are the M$ instructions for using it:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/221512

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This is what it tells you:

[b]1. Start your computer, press and hold CTRL, and then choose Safe Mode Command Prompt Only from the Windows 98 Startup menu. If you are running Windows Me, start your computer with the startup disk.
2. At the MS-DOS prompt, type cd\windows\command, and then press ENTER. Where windows is the name of the folder in which Windows is installed.

3. At the C: prompt, type scanreg /restore, and then press ENTER.
4. Select the previous registry you want to restore, and then press ENTER.NOTE: A properly working registry has the word "Started" next to the date.

5. When you receive notification that you restored a properly working registry, press ENTER to restart your computer.[/b]

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by rob miners

This will put win.com in the right directory. Use notepad to create this batch file.

wc.bat is the name of the file and the contents of the file is below. Copy this batch file to your floppy.
At the prompt it will look something like this. A:\ then type in wc and press enter. I am assuming that win.com is in the root of the floppy.

wc.bat

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copy A:\win.com c:\windows

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When it is up and running use Scandisk to check the drive for errors.

Then I would use the Defragmentation program to Defragment the drive.

by jonmooney67

i have a conventional memory problem so it wont load windows.

and i think my win file is just completely missing...

by rob miners

floppy disk a Bootable Disk.
If it isn't go to this site and download this file and create a boot disk. Create the batch file that I suggested and put win.com and the batch file on the floppy.

http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
Windows 98 SE Custom, No Ramdrive

When you have finished these proceedures try and start windows. If that dosn't work and it complains about memory post back.

by Former member

You will need a boot disk for this, i have listed some here:

http://www.bootdisk.com/
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
http://www.ubcd4win.com/
http://www.allbootdisks.com/

Copied from:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/187526

How to Restore Windows 98 from a Full System Backup

SUMMARY
This article describes how to use the System Recovery wizard to restore a full system backup of Windows 98.
MORE INFORMATION
The System Recovery wizard restores the data on your computer by installing Windows 98 with a custom Msbatch.inf file. This installation of Windows 98 allows the protected-mode Microsoft Backup program to restore a previously created full system backup.

The System Recovery wizard restores your Windows 98 installation by using the full backup that you previously created with Backup. To use the System Recovery wizard to restore your Windows 98 installation, you must have the following items available:
? A Windows 98 Startup disk.
? A CD-ROM drive supported by the Windows 98 Startup disk.
? Your Windows 98 CD-ROM.
? A backup device connected to your computer.
? A full system backup created with Backup.

For information about modifying the Windows 98 Startup disk if your hardware is not supported by the Startup disk, see the following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
ARTICLE-ID: Q188127 188127 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188127/EN-US/)
TITLE : How to Modify the Windows Startup Disk with Other Device Drivers

To restore Windows 98 on your computer, use the following steps.

IMPORTANT: You can use these steps only to restore data to the same hardware on which it was backed up. If your computer hardware has changed since the backup was made, you can use these steps to restore your data, but you will need to reinstall all of your Windows-based software after the process is complete.
1. Insert your Windows 98 Startup disk into the floppy disk drive, and then start your computer.
2. On the Microsoft Windows 98 Startup menu, choose Start Computer With CD-ROM Support.
3. At the command prompt, type the following lines, pressing ENTER after each line

: cd tools\sysrec pcrestor

where is the drive letter of your CD-ROM drive.

NOTE: The Pcrestor.bat batch file starts an automatic version of Windows 98 Setup. After Windows 98 Setup is complete, the System Recovery wizard is automatically started.
4. After Windows 98 Setup starts, remove the Windows 98 Startup disk from the floppy disk drive.
5. In the System Recovery wizard, click Next.
6. Type your name and company name, and then click Next.
7. In the System Recovery wizard, click Finish. The Microsoft Backup Welcome screen appears.
8. In the Microsoft Backup dialog box, click Restore Backed Up Files, and then click OK.
9. In the Restore wizard, use the following options when you are prompted:

Restore From: Select the location where your backup is stored.

Select Backup Sets: Select the most recent full system backup.

What To Restore: Click to select the check box next to each local drive.

Where To Restore: Click Original Locations.

How To Restore: Click "Always replace the file on my computer."

10. Click Start to start the restore process.
APPLIES TO
? Microsoft Windows 98 Standard Edition
? Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition
I hope all works out for you.

Please post back if you have anymore problems or questions.

by jonmooney67

i dont have the windows 98 disc as i said in my 1st post.

but i have tried to use the boot disc solo and it takes me to a black screen where i get a:/> and thats it.

by jonmooney67

is there a way you can put that in your own steps for me plz..

by older mycroft

The Microsoft instructions more or less say it all, but I can see that if you're not sure they [i]might look a bit daunting[/i] eh ?

Actually, looking at the M$ instructions again, they've made a complete balls-up of them. Whoever uploaded these to the M$ website has never worked offline!! In every instance they've used a '/' when it should be a '\'. What a bunch of utter wallies !! :D

[i]1. Start your computer, press and hold CTRL, and then choose Safe Mode Command Prompt Only from the Windows 98 Startup menu. If you are running Windows Me, start your computer with the startup disk.[/i]

Whether you can comply with this first instruction or not, you have posted that you CAN get to a MS-DOS screen that is black with a white 'A:\'. - That's good enough!

[i]2. At the MS-DOS prompt, type cd windows\command, and then press ENTER. Where windows is the name of the folder in which Windows is installed.[/i]

At your 'A:\ >' just type the following (hit ENTER at each line end) :

[b]cd c:
cd windows
cd command[/b]

Your DOS line should now read:

C:\windows\command >

[i]3. At the C: prompt, type scanreg /restore, and then press ENTER.[/i]

Type: [b]scanreg\restore[/b] (press ENTER)

[i]4. Select the previous registry you want to restore, and then press ENTER.NOTE: A properly working registry has the word "Started" next to the date.[/i]

Right Jon, this is where you are flying solo now. It's a number, a BIG number of years, since I've used this DOS utility and I can't remember what it looks like. I reckon it was standard DOS black & white but I seem to remember a colour appearing somewhere on the screen

[i]5. When you receive notification that you restored a properly working registry, press ENTER to restart your computer.[/i]

That bit seems pretty straightforward.

Go on ! Have a go and see what happens.

Post back.

by willcomp

What is the exact error message and when does it occur?

If you have faulty RAM, first step is to replace it, then worry about recovering Win98.

A note about restoring registry in Win98 using scanreg -- that's only possible if a copy was manually saved. If you have never saved a copy, then there's nothing to restore from.

by rob miners

PM me and I will send you a file that will create a Boot Disk already configured to copy the file and solve the conventional memory problems.

Rob

Edit: Just click on my link "send message"

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