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By ExCorpGuy ·
After working for 8 years for the same company, we got
sold to an outsourcer. A year later, I got an instant
message from my boss on a Friday afternoon if I had
time to call him.

Basic line of phone chat follows...

How have you been doing?

(Background: Just had a heart attack, three stents
installed couple of months earlier...)

Well, you may not have heard as you were out, but we
are eliminating your job as it is second level.

(Note: Everyone else except one other person on team
is third level. This even though both the other co-worker
and I do the same daily work and have good job
evaluations with the former employer.)

Boss: I am not sure what is available via online internal
job postings, but this is a great chance for you to
advance your career.

Any questions? No... Well, have a great

Aside from being extremely tacky, this is a real kick in
the teeth. I guess on the bright side, at least he did not
phone me in the hospital while hooked up to IVs and an
EKG to give me the news!

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Some people's kids!

by Oz_Media In reply to Tacky?

Firstly, I am sorry to hear about the cus as well as stupefied by the ignorance and fear that it would take to not speak to you personally.

There is a mention of internal postings so I don't know what time frame you have but I would definitely keep an eye open and make sure you get a written reference. This is a VERY important issue that needs to be addressed immediately.

Secondly. Anytime I have left a company and the MANY I have had to let go (but I always helped them to find work with others in the field)find it has been the best thing that has ever happpened to me/them as it forces change and advancement that is often missed.

Good luck and certainly keep us posted how things work out.

On another note regarding your employer's tacky style; I had a very bad car accident some time ago, I was broadsided by a firetruck that left me in a coma for six seeks. I had blacked out and amsaid to have driven two blocks before entering a normally busy intersection (but at 11:30PM) and the light had just turned red (I was already completely unconcious due to a prior concussion).

A few days after I came around I was starting to get my bearings and an RCMP officer came in. (Richmond doesn't have city cops just RCMP)

He said he was really happy to see me and that I had survived as he was really concerned when he attended the accident, he was told it was 'hit or miss' with me (sorry bad pun). He then went on to explain that nobody else was hurt even though there was over $30,000.00 damage to the firetruck and my car was a sardine can with the roof torn open by the jaws of life(but it saved me).

He then leaned forward with a pen and book in his hand and asked me to sign the ticket for RUNNING THE DAMN RED LIGHT!!!! :-)

Oh well, the neurologists report proved I was unaware of the light and was out cold, the ticket was signed while I was still not fully aware etc.

What a freakin' nerve! Now THAT's TACKY!

Best of luck

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And it's not just the Police...

by HiTek-Hillbilly In reply to Some people's kids!

I was working for a company once, and had to travel overseas to Germany to conduct training. My boss went with me for the first half of the trip, and then flew home. I had never driven in Germany before and did not know all the rules, whereas my boss had. So, he drove the first couple of days, then handed the driving off to me.

We were pulling out of a parking lot, across traffic. The sign at the exit of the lot indicated we should not turn left, but my boss said to turn left. (The traffic was stopped for a red light where we were pulling out.) I showed him the sign, and he said, "Ah, we're from out of town. No one will even notice. Go ahead, we are running late!"

So... I did what my boss said. Got T-boned in the driver's side, and we ended up being MUCH later than we would have been by turning right and going around the block. Rental car was undrivable and was towed away. As we were standing by the side of the road waiting for the German police to arrive, he said I had made a bad decision. I told him that I was following his directions, that he was my boss, and should share some of the responsibility. (By the way, I had only been with this company for four weeks when this happened.) He gave me a concerned look, and said "If you don't have the guts to stand up to bad advice, then you have a problem!"

Well... yeah, maybe so. But come on now! A new employee, with his boss sitting beside him in the car and telling him to go ahead. Think about it! Anyway, from that point on, I had no qualms about examining EVERY directive from him from every possible angle, since he was obviously going to worm out of sharing any responsibility for any bad decisions.

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by jbaker In reply to And it's not just the Pol ...

The number one computer seller in the world (I will not name names), based in Round Rock, TX, used probably the most tacky way I know of to lay-off about 600 people. Due to facility issuse, if there was a large briefing, the company would often rent one of the movie theatres in the area for them. On this day, the employees got an email that said to be at the theatre at 11:00am. When they got there, all of the seats had packets on them. Inside the packets were a standard severance offer and seperation papers. Also a letter saying that they could make arrangements with their (former) supervisors to meet and be escorted by security to their offices at a future date to retrieve their personal effects.

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Very Tacky indeed

by ExCorpGuy In reply to Experience

I will name name them for you...

Nice work DELL

Yet another reason why I won't purchase their boxes
even if I could understand their Indian support reps.

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Tacky - Uncouth - Cowardly - Etc. - BUT. . . .

by maxwell edison In reply to Tacky?

I'll second what OZ said. Get a written reference as quickly as possible. Be professional, don't hold a grudge, and figure out where the silver lining lies - and there is a silver lining. If you really want to leave that place with a bang, between now and the last time you walk out the door, be happy. Let others see you walking on cloud-9. Don't be one to project doom and gloom, but rather enthusiastic optimism. Leave them wondering why you're so happy to have lost your job. They will think that you "lost something", but you will know that you've gained an enormous opportunity. And there is indeed something good that will come out of this - and you have to go forward knowing as much and focusing on that - and only that. In a years time, you'll look back and see that it was indeed a good thing in the long run.

Your boss was tacky, uncouth, cowardly, etc. BUT those are things about him, not you. I would suggest that you never focus on him or those things again, but only on you, and only on what lies ahead.

It is so easy to fall into the pessimist trap of seeing yourself as a "victim". We've all done it, and we've all suffered because of it. But I've never seen a person who was a true optimist not able to better himself, not able to achieve a goal, and not able to find the silver lining in everything. If you have a tendency to fall into that pessimist trap, I might suggest that you listen to some self-improvement and motivational tapes every day. (If you want some "listening suggestions", post a reply or shoot me an email, and I'll give you a list of some good ones. I'll bet OZ knows of some good ones as well. And ebay is a great place to find them.) In the very least, it will help you put forth a positive outlook during your next job search - or whatever else that silver lining might make obvious.

I've known people, for example, who have started their own small business after being let go from a job. I've known people to go into entirely different fields - ones more conducive to achieving their true goals and dreams. This is indeed a great opportunity for you, and that's the only way to approach it.

Best of luck to you. No, on second thought, go out and make your own luck happen. You do have the power to make it happen.

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Class Act !

by I Call It As I See It ! In reply to Tacky?

Companies that employ morons like this deserve each other. What goes around comes around.

As a parting memo, if and when, let him know what a class act he is. Or is that class ***? I always get that confused.

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Class Act !

by I Call It As I See It ! In reply to Tacky?

Companies that employ morons like this deserve each other. What goes around comes around.

As a parting memo, if and when, let him know what a class act he is. Or is that class ***? I always get that confused.

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I disagree

by maxwell edison In reply to Class Act !

With all due respect, I disagree. There is a great deal of personal benefit to be gained from taking the high road - the road less traveled, to be sure, or so it seems. Contempt and revenge hurt no one but the person harboring such emotions and feelings, so why inflict yourself with such self-destructive vile?

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Vengeance is a dish best served cold.

by sleepin'dawg In reply to I disagree

I agree with you and while our reasons are not quite the same we agree that harboring feelings of ill will are counterproductive but in my background I was taught that all debts are to be repaid with the appropriate amount of interest. A favor is repaid with a favor and an insult or injury is repaid in kind. The ultimate vengeance is to live long and well and to prosper. Going out of one's way to extract vengeance is only serving to disipate my energies from my goals. Even if the opportunity is at hand it is often better to sit back and enjoy the worry and jealousy that is being felt as the other party waits for some form of retaliation that he doesn't know will never come. I smile, nod as a form of greeting and move on. I swear I can hear the gnashing of teeth behind me as I move away, guiltless because I have done nothing to feel guilt over. The energy I would have wasted was focused on building and growing my business and that as I have said is vengeance enough. In fact it is indeed true vengeance.

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Agree with Max AND I Call It...

by GuruOfDos In reply to I disagree

Max is dead right! The feeling of personal satisfaction gained from taking the moral high ground is so much better for the soul...not only that but 'positive satisfaction' is usually far more longer-lived than the negative emotion of revenge. You may feel good for a while, thinking that you 'crapped on someone who crapped on you', but no-one actually gains from it. The sense of being that 'little bit above' the other man not only lifts the spirits and boosts the lil' ole ego, but gives you the confidence to overcome similar situations in future - knowing that you have overcome once before means you KNOW you can do it again, if you have to.

Where I agree with 'I Call It...' is the view that if the boss/manager deals with his staff in this manner, i.e. IM'ing an employee to ask THEM to call YOU and then giving them a DCM (Don't Come Monday) then the company and the manager deserve each other. After all, if that's how management treat their staff, then what kind of treatment can their customers expect?

Common etiquette is all that is required, and when giving someone the big 'e', at least have the common decency to approach them in person, face to face, and give them the bad news that way. I can see why in larger companies that the process may be carried out in writing, but that's the whole point of a management structure. Rather than an impersonal letter 'from the top', an immediate superior has the responsibility for managing those below him, and this should include passing on the 'bad news'.

Sending an impersonal IM and then expecting the 'victim' to call and hear the bad news simply stinks!!

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