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... is the expanded conversation option. No more clicking in and out of responses!
But each response does take up too much space vertically, and not enough horizontally. I wish it was horizontally fluid (based on browser width).
It's not like an avatar is a requirement. If one doesn't want to use avatar, the default silhouette is always an option.
I'd still like to see the TR flag as the default instead.
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by oz_media
No. My fonts are the same (small) for all websites, I'm not about to reduce font sizes for one website.
EDIT: Sorry I just realized there IS actualy a sort of tired layout, just the lines narely contrast to teh background so they are hard to see. What a farce this is, I've seen some poor changes made over the years but they are mostly minor feature removals etc, this joke of a redesign is just a complete kaibosh of a website. What an embarassment, a tech site with a practically unusable website.
by oz_media
shorter list, what do I like about it........mmmmmm......errrrrr....there's GOT to be something....nope, nothing broken was fixed, everything else was screwed with just to make it different.
I guess after a year of coding, if you come up with somthing similar it doesn't look good. Might as well screw up the whole site and then you can justify a year's salary for tweaking and fixing, as it sits it's a joke. Absolutely laughable in every sense of web design.
"Can you be more specific?" To begin with, hire someone that actually knows how to layout a website and create a logical navigation system. This looks like it was created for a 12" screen.
I notice a 'Send a Message' option under the 'My Account' link in the upper right. I also notice the 'To' field appears to be limited to those in 'My Contacts'. Is that a correct perception? If so, is it limited to when both members have the other as a contact?
Also, on the Membership / Preferences tab, I'm unable to select 'No' for 'Allow members to contact me'. I'm not really interested in disabling this option; I was just testing it to see if I could still send peer messages if I disabled it. Since I couldn't disable it, I couldn't test sending with it disabled. Since I didn't use the word enough times in this paragraph already, here's a few more: disabled, disabled, disabled. Or 'challenged', for the politically correct.
by boxfiddler Hot topic
by oz_media
First of all I see your side completely but then I thought that it's a good thing in another way. I sometimes get peer mail from people I have never uttered a word with, asking about something I mentioned 7 years ago that came up in their Google search.
I had one a few months ago from a guy who was looking for advice on stereo tuners. Sent me model numbers and prices of stuff he was looking at and asked for purchase advice.
I got one teh other day from someone who was asking why I had a peer in my contacts list because of something he said. It included a link to ao conversation I'd not been following or posting to and asked me to delete him from my contacts and tell him what I thought. I read the linked post and it meant nothing to me, some tech stuff I knew nothing about. I replied and said I don't have to agree with someone all the time to consider them an acquaintance or a friend and that I don't let other people tell me who to befriend anyway! :D Gawd!
Anyone knows I don't have a problem with offering advice or buying tips on stuff I work with but I get some bizarre emails from people here who I have never heard of before.
It's a junk email account anyway, but still...
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by boxfiddler Hot topic
once I've posted the view collapses and there's no sign of the option to Expand it again, despite my default being set at Expanded.
Sorry, couldn't edit the original. That seems to be a sporadic issue.
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by jasonhiner
You're talking about TechRepublic like it's a little site with a single Web developer. This is a completely different animal than the kinds of sites you've worked on because of the scalability issues it takes build a site with 6+ million users/month and the responsibility we have to serve a large audience with a lot of different (and sometimes conflicting) needs and requests.
We have a team of over 30 people that have been working on this, getting lots of input from the TR community and implementing best practices from some of the Web's most efficient and effective sites, including Google, Amazon, Digg, Slashdot, and more. In fact, we've got some great people on staff that have worked on these sites (some even pioneered well-known features at those sites). These are not amateurs and the work they've done on the new TechRepublic is the best relaunch that I've ever been a part of and I've been doing this for over a decade. It took tremendous discipline for our team to eliminate as much stuff as we did from TechRepublic. The result is a site that takes fewer clicks to navigate, loads faster, and puts content front and center.
That said, the biggest part of this migration is something that you can't see. We've completely re-engineered our front-end platform so that we can upgrade the site in much more incremental ways rather than doing massive relaunch projects like this one. This is easier on the users (we don't move their cheese as often), it keeps the site adaptive and flexible, and it provides regular improvements. This is going to enable us to do a lot more cool stuff in 2011, especially some nice additions in community.
by boxfiddler Hot topic
by jasonhiner
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by oz_media
I agree with you, but it takes a technical mind with no cretive capability to come up with this jumble of junk and think it's a website and draws new visitors. YOU'VE designed websites, you know the 12 second rule for new visitor attention, most would click away form this mess in about 3. "OOOOOPS, wrong link, try the next one maybe it looks a little more usable."
At first I thought it was a browser display issue, new website, not fully cross browser tested, tried with FF and its the same! Truly ghastly, if not one of the worst sites I've seen in ages. What a disaster! The new discussion layout and navigation is absolutely horrid!
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by seanferd
So may be it's a built in for Infernal Exploiter.
Oh well, if you are going t make an arse of something, at least make a big arse of it.
by boxfiddler Hot topic
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by oz_media
TR used to encourage it. they did a points and (reward?) system once to get people to complete profiles and upload an avatar. I know people's avatar's as I would recognize faces in the real world. TR once wanted to encourage use of avatars and completing profiles (as many good sites force you to do before posting) as it cuts down on spammers. People won't post spam links and run if it is a more involved registration process, thus you build a better community with fewer 'post and runs'.
Now you have a choice, register with a new host, upload and reformat an avatar, welcoming more junk mail and spam, or don't have an avatar. If the latter, why have them at all ,if they are all going to be blank avatars then there's simply no point at all in using them to begin with, just list by user name.
by boxfiddler Hot topic
each reply needs a reply button. I'm seeing a lot of answers posted using 'Ask for Clarification', and those folks will never get a positive or negative vote out of their responses.
Additionally, once a thread gets long, and some over there do, it's a royal pita to have to go back to the top of the thread to reply.
[i]add something[/i]
[i]remove the double amp: that just showed up[/i]
by seanferd
Answer, reply, flag, favorite, whatever, all in one line.
Expand, "read more" (ugh), show #, all in one spot.
by oz_media
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by jasonhiner
Go to the main thread and change the View from "Collapsed" to "Expanded."
For example, from here:
https://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-340633
by boxfiddler Hot topic
We're asking for the addition of Print/View All option, as it was. Expanded is not the same thing at all. Too much wasted screen space. Too, too vertical.
[i]clarify[/i]
by oz_media
That jutst expands a couple of top level posts and lists the rest as individual links with avatars beside them (we don't need avatars beside each heading, just when the post is opened, as before).
It's not even close to having each and every post opened in a thread, with the ability to reply to and edit in the same view, not even on the same planet as the old print/preview option, which worked really well.
Did anyone actually look at what worked in the old site instead of just how to add a load of other junk that nobody seems to have wantedanyway ?
Seriously Jason, this scrolls and works like a torrent website (rlslog etc.). It is horrendously bad, terribly laid out, navigation is all but non existent compared to anything that has been done over the last 10 years, it's like Windows ME all over again, the whole thing's just a big, bad mistake. Too bad, what a total screw up by the development/design team.
by boxfiddler Hot topic
work!
All it does is hide the three image panels, the rest of the page does not flow, I just get a big gap!
On top of that, the option isn;t even there in FF!
And tell you web designers to stop using wide screen rotated 90 degrees!
At 1920x1080, I'm going to need Magoo glasses within a week, and I still can't see your answer and my reply on one screen full!
Some thing like 60% of the real estate is outside the main 'window, of that, half is unused!
Usability?
Message from user, are you kidding?
by seanferd
Prefs.:
1)Prefs not persistent.*
2)"Community prefs do not offer "All" as a default display number.
3) If I can't set default blocking below -10, I may miss something, as this can be gamed and abused, etc.
4) "Expanded" does not stay expanded, and the option to expand disappears off the page once used.*
Layout:
1) Horrific waste of space. Too much white, too low-density. Should I get a sixty-inch widescreen and hang it vertically to read more than a few sentences?
2) Comment delineation ("boxes") isn't cute, it is more like a spill. Group it up and clearly box the comment, user info fields, and command links related to the post. Better separation in reply/answer view.
3)Who told you to automatically pull a Gravatar from an existing account? Not cool.
4)Never had to set a browser to not use font colors set by a site in order to see my typed text before.
5)"Longer" posts - now I'm typing in a four-line scroll box. Whatever.
6)"Read more". A simply awful method of saving space on posts just so it can be wasted on this diffuse formatting.
So, TR did go down the hideous path which ZDNet chose for their "forum", which is exactly what I was afraid of when changes were first mentioned last summer. I seem to be sadly correct in predicting the outcomes of such announcements, now on the internet as well.
I probably forgot some clarifications while typing.
* = I assume for now this is just a bug.
by seanferd
Never been big on user scripts for sites, but it may be a necessity. That, or TR can offer CSS switching to official alternative layouts.
Accessibility != lowest common denominator (or below). Internet should come through the intertubes, not feeding tubes.
by seanferd
Not like the improvements MS made to the Win/Office UIs? :0
;)
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by hal 9000
Well Jason for starters the sizes are different which requires you to resize or do without.
Then there is the slight issue of needing to join yet another site and spread what where previously Secure E Mail Address about. In the Past I was sure that TR wouldn't be sharing my E Mail Address with anyone and they where the only ones to get most of those which can not be dumped at a moments notice.
Now there is a site Gravatar who has 2 of my E Mail Addresses that would be inconvenient to loose though not [b]Earth Shattering[/b] it would certainly be Inconvenient. The remainder they will never see and any Accounts that are already open or may be opened in the future will remain Blank.
Currently I'm not overly happy with the need to join yet another site just so I can post at TR with the same features that where in place previously. Maybe I'll get used to the FB Look of things but currently at the moment I'm debating weather or not to continue using TR as it's become inconvenient, hard to know where posts will end up particularly in Q&A Threads, Not Possible to Subscribe to Questions/Discussions without adding a post and seriously looks way too much like Face Book which I refuse to use. ;)
I've also just seen that the Contact TR Link that used to be on every page is no longer there nor is there a link to report Spam Posts so I'm assuming that this was just an oversight that will get changed when it gets brought to your attention. :0
Col
by michael jay
by justin james
It's still there... at the bottom of the post is a link that says "Flag".
J.Ja
by hal 9000
While it doesn't directly impact on me I do have a few clients who are Color Blind so maybe I'm more sensitive to this issue but I can tell you any person that is Color Blind will simply loose most of the links up top when they are active.
That is taking into account if they can see them at all which most will not be able to. ;)
Col
by seanferd
The awful and undifferentiated "top rated" and "This just in" sections at top of the thread which have the non-persistent thread settings below. I just figured out what was going on up there.
-10 points for accessibility, if that is the reasoning behind the font size/kerning/etc.
edit: Also, font too light in thread lists. List even more ridiculously short than ever. "See more" function result is worse. At least we can page back farther (apparently, anyway), but the pages are far too short.
Accessibility can not have been a consideration, or the accessibility designers are clueless. So, I think it is all a "look", rather than any form of accessibility driving this. Someone will have to claim one or the other, though, before I can explain the goal-fail.
by seanferd
It should be, considering the monstrosity of a search box placed at the top of the lists.
Suggestion: retain the search form on the results page. Srsly, come on.
by nwallette
Everything is *SO* *BIG*.
It looks like someone with a small monitor and high resolution took their glasses off and then resized everything so they could still see it. It makes it very difficult to get a bird's-eye view of the content all at once.
At 1280x1024, the size of the buttons and panels makes it impossible to view any page without having to scroll around. This would be hopelessly counter-productive on my iPhone.
You want a clean layout? Condense the objects and provide white space between them. Lots of visual separation. Right now, there's just too much stuff everywhere. And the eye is drawn more to the rightmost "other stuff" column than the article.
Also, my biggest complaint ever about the article comments was that you had to click each and every one to read it. I'd prefer at least a couple levels of comments preloaded. If not expanded, then tucked away in an invisible DIV with a clickable expander. If not that, then AJAX-loaded. Reloading the entire page is a huge waste and makes for cumbersome reading.
At least before, though, you could see the hierarchy between comments. Now the comment tables are too bulky to take in. I can't tell who started a thread because the original poster is about 1000 pixels north of the replies.
Can we start over?
by oz_media
You are scorlling down poorly contrasted test and links in a thread and keep seeing teh big blue block of nothing. Power Users, cool and all but does it need to be one o fthe most dominant blocks on the page? A tiny blue list ina text box would be just fine and less intrusive, actually, while I initially liked that they retained a colour scheme, the more I see it the uglier and mroe useless it all is.
FUGLY describes it well. If I had designed it, I'd be cleaning out my desk and collecting holiday pay right before it went live; run before they find our what you were paid to come up with!
by jasonhiner
by seanferd
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by jerang-
@SinisterSlay - your code here is formatted correctly with the pre tag!
https://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-340633-3412219
by justin james
It's cut off at the ends. It needs to wrap. In other testing, Chip's shown that pre DOESN'T work the way we need it to.
J.Ja
by thechas
Well, like most everyone else, I do not like the larger font and the spread out information on the pages.
I check for new downloads every Saturday. Checking today I noticed a few things:
1. I can no longer tell what articles I have already downloaded.
2. The list of view all defaults to date order, but starts with a November 11th 2010 article. And, does not include the articles I downloaded this past Saturday.
3. When I click on the link to sort by date, I get a 404 error.
4. How come the content type pull-down does not have an All option?
5. The update did not fix the ability to download articles that I have links for and had reported as not downloading such as:
https://www.techrepublic.com/downloads/10-chrome-extensions-that-enhance-online-security/1832559
On the plus side, my bookmarks to old articles do work.
I don't like having to click through multiple pages to review all the posts on long discussion threads.
Do we really need a column inch of text to preview posts and articles?
Personally, I would prefer to return to one of the pre 2005 site layouts with more plain text and less graphics.
Chas
by oz_media
by seanferd
No thread reference in thread list where comments are displayed by comment title. How many times should I open one thread from this list?
"Pages"" Hating them even more than I had imagined. This is fine for a straight commenting thread, not a branched forum thread. What's on which page now?
by seanferd
by boxfiddler Hot topic
by jasonhiner
by jasonhiner
Here's the link to Gravatar's privacy policy:
http://en.gravatar.com/site/privacy
In short, they promise to "never rent, sell, or otherwise distribute or make public your email address." We wouldn't have used them unless they had such an unequivocal policy.
by justin james
... just ask Google.
Sorry, but there's no defense on this one. Gravatar should be *an* option, not *the* option. Personally, I don't mind Gravatar, but I'm standing up for the folks who have every right to not want to use it. Just let people host elsewhere, and offer defaults icons for folks as well.
J.Ja
by oz_media
I'd thought of it before...
That, there should be no editing possible. Make it, like, your diamond is forever.
Only thing you get to do is another post. You get to explain how you flew off the handle. Only, without flying off the handle again. If you can.
by jasonhiner
makes it hard to take anything you say seriously. These kinds of melodramatic comments cause you to lose all credibility -- even if and when you have something valid to communicate.
If you can't stand the new TechRepublic that much then I'd suggest you take a break and come back when you can approach it with a clear head and less emotion.
by boxfiddler Hot topic
by justin james
... and more of the stuff we specifically requested. Stuff like seeing what forum comments we've already read. The actions of the audience are a fundamental driver of the business, as we discussed. The end result of this project has not delivered the tools we asked for or the tools we need to continue our participation. It has made participation considerably harder. This new forum system is bordering on unusable. I can barely type responses since this box is so small only three sentences fit into it. I can't easily see what I've read and what i haven't read. I can't easily subscribe to the conversations unless I'm starting a top level post.
I've posted an extraordinary number of bugs here, as have others, and all but a handful have not been responded to with either a "bug filed" message or a legitimate response showing why this is not a bug. I think that having someone from tech respond to these items in this fashion would go a long way in cooling the flames, because right now, it looks like we are being ignored. That's not a good feeling for the folks who took their time testing this site and providing feedback, regardless of how it's worded.
i know you're on the defensive, I've been in your shoes on this kind of thing before. You didn't write the code, and we all know that. But right now, we need someone to stand up as the voice of the community and get some actual COMMUNICATIONS going on, because right now, this is a mess. You've got a pile of angry people (note that other than a few minor comments regarding font size, NO ONE from the core users is happy!) who are either being ignored, or getting responses that feel like the feedback is not helpful. This is just going to make things worse. I highly suggest getting someone from the tech team on this. I've been involved in a fair number of disaster projects, and I promise you that the lack of communications from the tech team is causing a lot more problems than having someone lose the time to monitor and respond to this forum will cause.
Let's not forget, many of the people in this forum are also industry experts, and I guarantee you that all of them are more expert in the care and feeding of the TechRepublic community than any of the devs you have working on the backend. After all, we're the ones who use this site on a daily basis, not them. I'll put one comment by Nick, Charlie, Tricia, Boxy, Santee, etc. above a dozen "expert opinions" from developers who've posted to this site twice in their life.
J.Ja
by jasonhiner
These are all professionals perfectly capable of speaking for themselves.
Thanks for sharing your input and feedback. We appreciate it. We can't respond to every post, but we are certainly reading them and using them to help run down bugs and make tweaks to enhance usability. And we were just talking tonight about reporting back in this thread on some of the fixes and changes that we're making.
It's also time to take it easy on the melodrama. We haven't changed THAT much in the community, because we know that it's hard on the power users that have established patterns of working with the site. But, at the same time, we need to keep expanding and looking for ways to make this stuff easier and more approachable and more efficient (you and I can argue about the strategy and implementation of that endlessly, but let's table it for now).
Ultimately, if there is stuff we can do to make things more effective and even in a few cases bring some features back (or find a compromise) then we're always exploring that, but this is still day two. We're getting lots of great and helpful input from users both publicly and privately and we're continuing to forge ahead and make the site better.
Give it a few days. We'll get stuff fixed and make more tweaks and then let's see where we're at.
by justin james
"Don't take it upon yourself to speak for the TR community or the core users"
Did I say I was volunteering? I was actually meaning to suggest that you'd be a good choice for that. Seriously, we need someone to really track this (and the other similar threads) and act as the voice of the customer on the inside. That's what I meant. I would have edited it but...
"And we were just talking tonight about reporting back in this thread on some of the fixes and changes that we're making."
That should be a very high priority, to be honest, and will go a long way in letting folks know that their feedback is not going into a black hole.
"It's also time to take it easy on the melodrama."
I think that only a few people are being melodramatic... I'm certainly trying my best to be objective, now that my shock from Sunday over the missing content has passed. :) I think that, for the most part, people are trying to be objective, but you're in the hot seat so it's easy to feel like people are attacking a lot more than they are. TR is "home" for a lot of people, and they are going to take any kind of change pretty personally.
"Ultimately, if there is stuff we can do to make things more effective and even in a few cases bring some features back (or find a compromise) then we're always exploring that, but this is still day two. We're getting lots of great and helpful input from users both publicly and privately and we're continuing to forge ahead and make the site better."
I think that for the next big change, or even the small ones, it would be extraordinarily helpful to have members of the Top 100 actually work with it, hands on, and provide feedback throughout the process. We're the customer, not the development team. You're very lucky in that TechRepublic has a core group of active users who would gladly give some time to that. Take advantage of it! I am certain that a lot of the "wow, I can't believe they did that!" feedback would have been avoided by running usability tests with a small group of actual users in advance.
Or, to put it this way... would you prefer a small focus group session scheduled for a few months before launch, with time baked in to adjust after the feedback is gotten? Or do you prefer these trials by fire every few years? Either way, you're going to get the feedback and tweak later, why not build it into the development cycle and avoid this kind of pain?
J.Ja
by justin james
Another oddity, when you look at the top level of the discussion thread, and it shows the top rated and newest posts, you can't do a right click on them to get the "Open in New Tab" or "Open in New Window" options. This makes me leave that view, making it hard for me to spawn off a bunch of new tabs to read the new comments.
J.Ja
by boxfiddler Hot topic
instead of right click > open link in new tab
a single middle "Wheel" click will force a new tab or window (depending on settings)
by justin james
Thankfully, it's only for the two posts at the top. But I *have* noticed the same thing in a number of other parts that have an AJAX behavior, the right click menu is butchered.
J.Ja
by justin james
I know, it may look like i hate the new site. I don't. I like many of the ideas it represents, but there are a lot of implementation details that I think were not done quite right. In the spirit of giving credit where credit is due, let's list some of the GOOD things about the new design:
* Bigger fonts. Yes, less content appears on the screen. That can be fixed by widening the center column. But with the bigger fonts, it's a LOT easier to read, especially for vision impaired (a good part of the population.
* The collapsible areas. A number of areas that are less important are collapsible, giving the opportunity to get some pixels back.
* AJAX in some appropriate areas. Like the contact forms, nice touch.
* Improved search. The search is much improved. Not what I think it needs to be in some areas (I've posted separately on search issues), but it is much improved.
* Dropping the ".com.com". That always annoyed me.
* If you are someone who is willing to use Gravatar, it *is* a good system. I understand why folks don't like it (look at the Top 100 "Power Users", a very small minority of them have Gravatar images, so clearly it's not widespread in use already), but at the same time, I do like it as a system.
* Code formats slightly better. The code formatting is not what's needed, but it is still better than what we had a week ago.
* Voting on comments, burying comments: much needed, and much appreciated.
* RSS feeds to monitor discussions is more obvious.
* When the main navigation areas get all of the content imported, they will be potentially much better than what was there before.
* Author disclosures: this is very important, and welcome.
* Identification of "staff" on avatars.
* Focus on the the users. While the "Power Users" box may be a bit too over the top, it's a nice thought and representative of the thought process that went into the site.
Anyone else care to share the GOOD things they see in the new design?
J.Ja
by justin james
What's strange is that the big fonts seem to be a nod to accessibility, but then the color choices completely overwhelm it going in the wrong direction.
J.Ja
by boxfiddler Hot topic
Larger fonts, YES! I was always having to CTRL/+ the previous format. Haven't had to with the new.
Definitely like the voting on comments.
Thoroughly appreciate that the color scheme is not obnoxious.
Whether I'm in Discussions or Q&A, the Water Cooler shows on the opening page. Nice.
Expanded as a default is sweet. I hate clicking each post to open, and I didn't always like responding from Print/View All as it was difficult to find the next spot up the tree when the posting limit had been reached.
I like the option to cruise Unanswered Questions. Nice.
I haven't finished exploring yet. But I will post what I like in addition to what I don't like. :)
(ooh - I may not do a lot of editing until that's fixed :0 )
by justin james
That text in the above comment was a copy/paste from the site... yet it doesn't display right in my comment. :(
J.Ja
by justin james
... but you need to dig, it's an email icon at the top, that says, "Follow this discussion". But then you need to jump through hoops to use it. Hoops that ignore your default settings, it seems like. :(
J.Ja
by justin james
It's in the settings somewhere, I stumbled on it by accident, so I can't recall how to get there to share. :(
J.Ja
by boxfiddler Hot topic
I set the view to expanded in preferences
I'd rather scroll for miles than open each comment individually
however, after a reply is posted the whole view collapses to the default titles only
by thecalguy
Even though I'm logged in, I get "Permission denied" when I try to leave a comment.
(This one included).
I've now logged out and logged back in to see if works.
If you are reading this, then I guess it worked.
by jasonhiner
It's in your Community Preferences, there are only options to choose 25,50,100 and no option for All.
Its driving me nuts, too, so I'm pushing to get it fixed as soon as possible. :-)
by boxfiddler Hot topic
by freda
by random2010
You say you got rid of a load of ad units, and yet, ironically, when I open the link to the article on the new site design all I could see was ad units, the title of the article near the bottom on on the left in a huge font and the first line of text. To read the article I had to ignore all the ad units and scroll down. Guess that will become instinctive soon enough ;-)
Oh, and I had to take a few goes at posting this comment because it kept saying 'permission denied' in an ugly red box. Logging and and back in fixed the bug, but it was not a great first impression guys...!
by deskhero
I like to print the full comments thread to PDF -(after the article itself) which I add to my knowledgebase.
Not so easy now and looks scrappy.
Also - EVEN MORE external javascript - at least a dozen different sources according to NoScript - I do not trust them by default, and only enable the bare minimum for the site to work. Apart from security concerns they slow my browser down.
by gadgetgirl
going through My Account > contacts > I appear to have lost 90+ people..... (including YOU!)
How do we search for people?
(small list: on lunch, eating and typing.... ;) )
GG
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