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By FluxIt ·
After working in IT for nearly 20 years, I did take a few hiatus from it along the way, I am now moving into a career path that is less hands on and more think tank or intellectual. I am a senior system analyst.

I fear that after a couple more years of this I'll have become an old fogey out of touch with the newer circles. I have seen this with others.

What can I do to stay current? A home network is nice but I do not have the problems of the workplace. Doing contract work on the side kills my evenings and weekends.

Should I just resolve to this as evolution and press on?

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by djent In reply to THE 20 YEAR SHIFT

Getting old is a *****! If your over 35 in this business your already an old fogey. You might consider a side interest in a field that isn't so predjudiced against 40+ employees. Seems harsh, but real.

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yes so true

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That is why I am leveraging my talents and building a side business. Hopefully I'll be 65 and rolling in doe.

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Out of Touch?

by Oldefar In reply to THE 20 YEAR SHIFT

After 30 years in this industry, I have to disagree with the idea that one inherently loses touch. Experience can bring a greater level of understanding, a perspective based on similar situations and solutions from the past.

Look at those "old fogeys" and why you think they lost touch with the newer circles. My guess is that they were focused on specific technologies. While they understood the technical aspects fully, they failed to understand the surrounding issues and relations. This can happen to anyone regardless of age if they fail to think beyond the task in front of them.

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Also, I see people who want to

by admin In reply to Out of Touch?

"arrive" still -as opposed to the ones that keep training for the journey (in all aspects, not just technical!). "Put in my years -now I want respect" etc. Well.... wrong field (and probably wrong spot in history). If you can't re-invent yourself almost everday and still keep your rich history to draw from... it's over. Those of us who are 40+ and are still in touch I suspect have not tired of continuous learning.

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There is a No fear factor

by MallardtooXX In reply to Also, I see people who wa ...

It seems to me that there must be a "No Fear" factor these days. I am not saying the cheesey X stuff I am saying you have to be willing to dive in headfirst and see what happens. I think the evolution of IT is Bass Ackwards, We are now beginning to fly by the seat of our pants. I think as budgets shrink and IT personel continue to pour in you will see the "Older, Wiser" group pulling things together. I think it is all in your perspective really. If you maintain your focus then I think you will see that it is not a matter of young and hip versus old and clueless; but more a matter of the ability to adapt versus the unstopable march of time.

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Well Put.

by admin In reply to There is a No fear factor

While waiting for some drives to finish the mirroring process I was pondering why although a certain CEO was quite inconsistant over the long haul in decision making, sometimes even making extremely bad decisions first then correcting them with a nearly opposite decision they remained not only strong as a leader, but extremely popular. I realized that it was because they were able to re-invent themselves on an ongoing as-needed basis. This person is not following fads per se but rather adaptingquickly to the needs around them to the best of their ability. They are also quite a lot older than most of their employees.

Logically, they are quite different from the old idea of a solid unshakable leader and yet they thrive in leadership today.

The "No Fear" approach is good, and waking up to a new morning each day and learning about and acting on it is powerful.

In a related item, I have always made a mental seperation between those that think the music of their high school or college days is eternally the best ever, getting emphatic about it beyond mere preference and those that see music as a vibrant flowing history and enjoy listening to it unfold.

The former (in my experience at least) tend to be people who get "stuck"at some point in time and are more reliant on authority and position in their views. The latter tend to see the "flow" of a project and are concerned about how they and others "fit" into the current work at hand, but are willing to change it for thegood of the project as it moves along.

It's just a personal note I have made along life's path :)

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I Agree

by JackOfAllTech In reply to Also, I see people who wa ...

I am 45 and have been in this business for over 20 years. I love learning new things. Most of what I know, I taught myself. I'm usually reading 3 books at a time (1 at work, 1 in the 'library', and the Bible).

I've met people much younger thanme who are stale, boring people because they aren't interested in learning anything new.

Your brain is similar to your muscles, the day you stop exercising it is the day it starts atrophying.


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by sabrodiesel2000 In reply to THE 20 YEAR SHIFT

sir if u say ur senior system analyst, arent u the one then to decide, analyze and design the things urself? then howcome out of touch? and np problems in home network if doesnt seem to have problems, then u can make new experiements like i always used to do and have the problems allready for me (<-:)o

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As a Sr Analyst

by FluxIt In reply to question

my job entails knowing pretty much all technology systems to include cellular, microwave, fiber, copper(1fb), trunked radio, broadcast, and internet. I also must know how to exploit systems (hack) and significant who's using what computer. On top ofthat I need to id cyber cafes, NGO's etc...

While I am designing databases and webpages working with advanced concepts of complex adaptive systems, I simply do not have time to do anything hands on.

In fact, I recently turned down a opportunity to work on a project called netwars and also one on cyberwars. Both would be hands on but very disruptive to my life.

I mostly analyze existing systems.

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