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The behavior of Microsoft is right?

By bighair1204 ·
First of all, I need to say one point about this post. I don't want to set up any flame. I just want to know something, no matter from professional technolgy view, or from ethic view. Here we go.

The day before yesterday, I saw a TV program, on a English channel, which talks about the 'blank screen' plan adopted by Microsoft recently. I had not completely understanded what they say, but one thing I heard is about the privacy, of which I am interested in.

Of course, we are not right to use the pirate version, but the software is too expensive for a lot of people in China. And in addition, can Microsoft use this way to control personal computer or to know your privacy? Is this kind of behavior too much? What do you guys think?

Because the limitation of my poor expression, here are some links could help you to understand. :)

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-china29-2008oct29,0,3703471.story

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2333057,00.asp

http://www.worldlawdirect.com/forum/internet-law/17761-microsoft-black-screen-plan-china-foiled-u-s-copyright-law.html

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I think you may find

by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to The behavior of Microsoft ...

that even outside the boundaries of your question, a lot of folks here think that Microsoft is a bully. Among other things.

Too, do not be surprised if a flame fest does, indeed, arise. Tends to happen when discussing Microsoft and ethics.

As far as I am concerned, Microsoft stepped over the line with Digital Rights Management, and Vista hardware requirements coupled with their standard practice of forcing upgrades by halting sales of previous versions of Windows. Once that line is crossed, anything else they do is over the line.
That would be my notion of an acceptable business practice line. Oh, an ethical line.

Hope I haven't rambled to the point of losing you...
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sort of lost me <NT>

by .Martin. In reply to I think you may find
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you don't lose me.

by bighair1204 In reply to I think you may find

I like you, you are friendly.

Here is a question, how much is a software of Microsoft in US?

You know in China, a genuine software grnerally costs 1000RMB or more than 1000RMB, that is a juge nomuber for most Chinese.

And does the black screen relate to privacy?

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MS software prices...

by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to you don't lose me.

I couldn't afford MS software if I couldn't purchase it at a significant discount through my campus bookstore.

I gave nearly $300 USD for WinXP Pro several years ago. It was painful, let me tell you.
Windows Vista Business, which it appears I now need to purchase is running nearly $300 USD, too. Again, painful. My pockets ain't deep.

I don't know about the black screen, sorry I can't answer that.

Thank you for the compliment. You're friendly too!

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the black screen, yes secuirty if it's what I'm thinking of

by Neon Samurai In reply to you don't lose me.

If you mean where the screen shades in black and all you get is a message windows over it; that would be a security feature. The idea is that Windows detected a program trying to do something suspicious so it's frozen everything before confirming with the user. It could have been done better but at least they didn't do nothing.

For pricing, I've seen a few people get the current local price from Amazon.com then convert that to there own currency for comparison.

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I think he is referring to WGA

by Pringles86 In reply to the black screen, yes sec ...

When Windows detects an illegal key being used it changes the background to black.

I'm not sure what Windows does when it detects an illegal copy of Windows, but I know we are talking about legal issues and cost not UAC.

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ah.. yes.. that wold be something different

by Neon Samurai In reply to I think he is referring t ...

Isn't that where Vista says "thanks for trying our product, now crippling the system until you pay for it". I could see that trapping data but it wouldn't really be lost for anyone with a liveCD. If one is going to use Windows, they do need a legal license for it though.

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can imagine it

by .Martin. In reply to ah.. yes.. that wold be s ...

Thank you for using Windows, unfortunately you evaluation period has expired, please wait while we cripple you hard drive beyond repair, if you want to save your files, you have 24 hours to enter a LEGAL license number.

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Compared to what, I suppose...

by randytwester In reply to I think you may find

This phrase sounds fairly innocuous:

"Further, Intuit Canada may at any time change or discontinue any aspect, availability or feature of the Software and Services"

I would have interpreted that as "we might not have that feature in the next version".

What Intuit means is "We can disable features of the software anytime we please, in order to force you to buy upgrades".

Note, this is not cutting off the supply of updates and bug fixes. They actually supplied a patch that time-bombed the ability of the software to open files on my hard disk.

Would Microsoft ever do that? I doubt it.

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No problem here, Big Hair

by santeewelding In reply to The behavior of Microsoft ...

I understand plain and simple.

I won't afford their latest services, either. I paid ~$300 cash for retail XP some years ago knowing up front I didn't own it. It's like my water or power. Sometimes I turn the faucet or flush my indoor plumbing and it's nothing or a disaster. Or a switch and I'm in the dark. Shilt happens.

But the minute MS goes beyond serving me -- turning my plumbing and switches on and off -- I find out where they live and send Guido.

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