"The economy is sound" White house says

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I don't allow a politician

by boxfiddler Moderator · 12 years ago In reply to "The economy is sound" Wh ...

credibility to begin with. Become a politician, lose all credibility as far as I'm concerned.

What, you're surprised? :0

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But what will

by jdclyde · 12 years ago In reply to I don't allow a politicia ...

the Obamaholics say?

What excuse will be made by his devout followers?

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Dunno.

by boxfiddler Moderator · 12 years ago In reply to But what will

But I'm sure they'll come up with some cheap rationalization the masses will believe.

I frankly don't think anyone out there in politics, or the mass media, is telling us the truth. I think it's uglier than we're being told, and I think it's going to get uglier.
Economically.

I think all they've done with these bailouts is buy time. And probably not much of it.

God help me, I hope I'm wrong.

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The thought that bothers me most....

by NotSoChiGuy · 12 years ago In reply to Dunno.

...about this entire situation is this:

It seems as though people are acting increasingly as if there are no long term consequences for anything.

I'm not a conspiracy nut; but the more I sit and think about that, the more it unsettles me for some reason.

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The devil is in the details.

by boxfiddler Moderator · 12 years ago In reply to The thought that bothers ...

Or, Biblically (and badly paraphrased at that) 'Take care of the small stuff and the big stuff will take care of itself.'

I'm old enough to remember when the least little traffic violation was considered a big deal. Chewing gum in class could get me suspended for a day. I could be flunked for bad penmanship. A lie was a lie no matter what color it was.

All small stuff to some degree. But over the years the public eye has been guided to the big stuff - murder and mayhem to the nth degree. So much so that we now tend to ignore the small stuff in order to tackle the big stuff.
But the big stuff would be properly managed, I think, with proper attention to the small stuff.

2 cents.

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The ones who should be surprised. . . . .

by maxwell edison · 12 years ago In reply to "The economy is sound" Wh ...

.....are the ones who voted for Barack Obama.

The claim, Bush lied, pales in comparison to the bill of goods sold by this guy (and his willing accomplices in the media).

The Obama supporters who don't hold him accountable for his word(s) will be showing THEIR true colors when they give him a pass on his many lies and misleading comments (change and hope - geesh!).

This guy is in WAY over his head. And he's doing nothing except using the position to implement his radical socialist agenda. His debt over the next twenty months, for example, will equal GWB's debt for the entire eight years of GWB's presidency!

Another Obama LIE about Iraq (one I predicted, by the way), are the 50,000 troops remaining in IRAQ for ......... for how long? For as long as GWB said in the first place. So much for Obama's promise to pull them out.

The really sad thing is that the Obama supporters aren't holding him accountable for what he says and does - blind faith in their Savior.

Behind every double-standard is an underlying and unmentioned single-standard.

Neil actually owes me TWO dinners because of our uninformed Obama supporters bet. But I suppose I can't really prove it - UNLESS YOU OPEN YOUR EYES.

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typical

by jck · 12 years ago In reply to The ones who should be su ...

The claim, Bush lied, pales in comparison to the bill of goods sold by this guy (and his willing accomplices in the media).

As opposed to what? Bush and his staff and the moguls in banking and petroleum who he let financially rape the American people?

The Obama supporters who don't hold him accountable for his word(s) will be showing THEIR true colors when they give him a pass on his many lies and misleading comments (change and hope - geesh!).

Again...as opposed to what?

Bush saying that America is strong? How? Declining military enlistment, declining economic conditions, etc. How is that "strong" when compared to America before or even early on in his administration?

This guy is in WAY over his head. And he's doing nothing except using the position to implement his radical socialist agenda. His debt over the next twenty months, for example, will equal GWB's debt for the entire eight years of GWB's presidency!

And your suggestion for any president taking over for Bush would be to do what? Nothing? Don't put money into the economy and let another "great depression" happen?

You say he pushes a socialist agenda.

I say you advocate an anarchist state of class separatism and self-interest with your examples of just cutting government.

Another Obama LIE about Iraq (one I predicted, by the way), are the 50,000 troops remaining in IRAQ for ......... for how long? For as long as GWB said in the first place. So much for Obama's promise to pull them out.

If you go back and read, the Bush administration committed America to 36 months in Iraq. Obama had nothing to do with that. Go back and get the facts right.

Either Obama keeps the commitment, or renigs on a signed deal with Iraq.

So would you rather he honor America's commitment?

Or have Iraq's government see us as liars and give the Muslim world something else to dislike us for?

The really sad thing is that the Obama supporters aren't holding him accountable for what he says and does - blind faith in their Savior.

It's really hard to hold someone accountable for things when they have only been in office (*looks at calendar*)...55 days?

Or do you think the economy should have turned around in less than 2 months?

Perhaps you are holding him to a higher standard than the previous president?

I think so.

Behind every double-standard is an underlying and unmentioned single-standard.

Neil actually owes me TWO dinners because of our uninformed Obama supporters bet. But I suppose I can't really prove it - UNLESS YOU OPEN YOUR EYES.

Indeed...and your double standard is saying you are independent from partisan government and waste, when your actions show bias against one administration by not holding the previous one to the same standard.

You gave the Bush administration 8 years.

Give Obama's more than 55 days to make a difference.

That would only be fair.

Or do you not think equal time for both presidencies is fair?

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How long?

by puppybreath · 12 years ago In reply to typical

How long before it is acceptable to question his results or motives? 6 months? 1 year? 2 years? 4 years?

I want to make sure I don't offend anyone by criticizing him before it's politically correct.

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what I think?

by jck · 12 years ago In reply to How long?

His motives? If you see something you think wrong: Now.

But to criticize the results of his policies after 55 days in office and even less time having had them passed by Congress: silly.

We gave Bush 3.5 years to win Iraq. Didn't.

We gave Bush 3 years to defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan. Didn't.

So, why is it so fair to think Obama can tackle economic recession within his first 55 days when Bush could not achieve goals within years?

I am just saying: it is reasonable to question and ask for reasons why when he does something.

However, to expect results before you give things time to work...is silly.

It's like a doctor giving you antibiotics and if they don't work in an hour, your doctor saying you need surgery.

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Not "self interest"

by TonytheTiger · 12 years ago In reply to typical

I say you advocate an anarchist state of class separatism and self-interest

Self-determination.

Nobody is proposing anarchy. What is your motive in claiming so?

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