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I agree that they haven't pwered themselves to the same guerilla marketing tactics that Gates did, probably why they still have prestige.

with the Ximian and Open Source additions, PHP, SQL etc, Netware is gearing up for a hard industry hit. As a MCNE I can't wait to see the lost MCSE souls when all the big money jobs are in Netware (they already are but nobody knows about it).

Then we'll hear, "I have an MCSE and was wondering whether I should get my CNA because I can't find work, waaaaaa."

Some people can't see the 'Trees' through the 'Forest', soon they won't see the 'Forest' because of all the 'Trees' .

P.S. I hope you ***** slapped the MCSE who said Novell stole NDS! That's Billy's trick.

I don't know where the guy got his information, but I asked him two

questions.

1. How long has AD been around? Gee, since 2000, I guess.
2. How long has NDS been around? Early to mid 90?s (after a few hints from me)

He seemed a might confused on dates, but not totally convinced. (M$ brainwashing)

Maybe Novell should hire the deprogrammers from the 70?s and 80?s that were used for getting people out of religious cults. M$ a cult? Hmmm,
if it quacks like a duck?

His only redeeming quality was that he hates NT.

It's guys like these that fog up the differences between good, better and best.

Whenever you hear M$ at a product launch, the mantra is "best Windows yet".

They can't compare themselves to Novell or a decent UNIX solution, because they are not better or even equivalent.

After getting my MCP, I got a certificate, a fancy tie pin, and a swipe card type ID thingy.
Microsoft also sent me a package the other day with Windows 2003 Servers and Exchange 2003 Servers.
Novell needs to get the word out, Novell needs to market, Novell needs to do stuff and send us stuff that we can install them and show them to our bosses. That's the only way they will authorize a move to a different NOS.

We have reached the point where many NT servers, or older systems in general are reaching their limit. Microsoft realizes that there are a lot of older systems still out their (do I hear Windows Update), so they are targeting these systems that were never upgraded by sending the IT people like myself literature and Evaluation software.
Novell needs to send us not only sample software, but give huge price discounts to the first 1 Million persons to convert to a Novell network, as well as sending us brochures like: 'How to upgrade from Windows NT 4.0, 2000 to Novell 6.5 .... nuff said.

You want free software?

WWW.NOVELL.COM/EVAL

Lot's of free stuff.You want discounts,they got discounts.

As for the how to's,if you don't know Netware ,call in a consultant.There are white papers,but unless you know the products inside and out,it's like upgrading to AD from domains.You want somebody that's done it before.

Interested?

www.cpu-tech-services.com

Authorized Novell and M$ partner.

Have laptop ,will travel.

Sorry, the old page doesn't work .Try this and watch for xtra spaces in the URL when doing c&p.

download.novell.com/pages/PublicSearch.jsp

"Novell needs to get the word out, Novell needs to market, Novell needs to do stuff and send us stuff that we can install them and show them to our bosses. That's the only way they will authorize a move to a different NOS."

I get monthly neqwletters, CD packages, mailouts etc. all the time (probably because I'm a registered NwtAdmin with them). The job of a good IT department is to test, evaluate, report and develop new practices to improve company sales, reducr operating costs and improve efficiency. I don't feel it is up to Novell to convince your boss but for you to research, document and present your ideas to the boss yourself, that's why you have a job, you are supposed to know what is nest for the company.

the two companies I switched had several MCSE's who couldn't keep up with the crao they had installed. I made a case and presented it to the employers along with ROI and TCO statements. This and the fact that they had to pay me (ONE GUY) about 1 1/2 times a single MCSE salary but again ONLY me convinced them to go my route. Three MCSE's are looking for work and I increased my salary.

Novell didn't do it for me, they just provided my tools.

Sorry for all the typos, maybe your batman decoder ring will help. :-P

I used to work with a consulting company that had a very good Novell Engineer, and he admitted that Microsoft had better marketing strategies than Novell.
I've been getting stuff from CDW, Microsoft, and other people, just by being the Network Administrator. The point is, if Microsoft is sending me software that is user friendly and also telling me how to implement it. If they are showing me that 75% of NetAdmins use it, then why shouldn't I go with it?
Novell needs to get stuff into my Inbox, because the truth is, I'm too busy evaluating Microsoft stuff that they sent to me to be out there researching something that I don't even know exists.

As a net admin it is YOUR resposibility to ensure that you ahve adequate product and competetive knowledge. If one company throws themselves at your feet and forces their product on you, as a net admin, it's YOUR JOB to see if that products stacks up against others on the market, not the vendors.

If I fix my neighbour's transmission for $300.00 and the shop that advertises heavily charges him $1200.00 that's HIS problem for not researching his options, not MINE.

Your job is to know what is best for the company, your their network administrator. Just like the office administrator is responsible for buying office supplies at competetive costs and finding out about new products that will benefit the company.

Netware's not new, in fact VERY old, you can't tell me you hadn't heard of Netware when you were taking your certs.