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The MBA and IT

By Identcc ·
After seeing that my BA in CIS, two MCSE certs, a Novell CNA cert and ten years of experience in IT isn't moving me up like I had hoped, I am now considering an MBA. Has anyone with a similar background done this? If so, how has it helped your career?

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am doing my MBA now

by VNCoder In reply to The MBA and IT

I had Bachelor of Science (Computer Science) and Master of Computing (Information Tech). Now doing my MBA (Project Management).
I don't know how this will help but better than certs that go out of date......

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by Identcc In reply to am doing my MBA now

That's exactly what I mean. Do I want to continue to be a certified Maytag repair man, or should I be moving my career forward? Seems like a no-brainer to me...

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Clear as a hair in a biscuit...

by ghstinshll In reply to

Speaking of clear... isn't it clear that you need the degree for higher positions, yet certs remain imporant to those doing the work? I am not in your shoes, but I have spent some time drilling those who are, so aspire to do the same.

It should be time to think about management-level certs... Keep abreast of tech by checking in on OS's and all, but look into the CISSP (acronym?) and PMP Project Management Professional certifications. These seem to be highly touted mid-management-level certsthat will get you going up. Then when you're moving on past that, the MBA, and other business (black belt) accreditations will help you.

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I've been followinbg this thread...

by admin In reply to The MBA and IT

because it's of personal interest to me too. I was in supervision first, then IT. If I go back again it's definately an MBA I want because it has a real market acceptance and can help me build my budget and executive language skills.

I know this doesn't directly answer your question, but maybe another posting will help generate interest. Also, although my intuition and being say MBA, I also want some data to back it up.

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Data suggests the MBA is worth it, but..

by dksmith In reply to I've been followinbg this ...

All of the data I have gathered centered around the Pre-IT bust. I have found no real solid, reliable data that is "recent". An MBA is good and valuable if you want to take your career in a management direction, but the details of that value vary depending on your focus in the MBA program and the program itself.

The "executive language" skills alone will benefit you. Something to consider, though, is that for an MBA to be of real worth you will most likely have to move departments or joinanother company for the dollar value and title to follow what you think you are worth.

Current bosses and employers tend not to appreciate the value of the MBA and your value as an employee with new knowledge.

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a slightly diffrent way of looking @ it

by nils In reply to The MBA and IT

You "aren't moving like you hoped"after some certs... You think a "bigger cert" will MAKE you movable?
I don't think so. What is your plan?
example:
I decided years ago (10)that I wanted to make 6 figures, and work on my own terms.
GOAL

Developed a plan that would allow me to pass through the requsite hoops in a timely fashion (8yr time frame)

I met my goal
I hope to stay satisfied for a while, but the job of practice manager has some appeal.

Plan the work-----> work the plan

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by Identcc In reply to a slightly diffrent way o ...

Well, sort of. I don't pretend to speak for everyone, but in my case, it was my hope/goal to have reached at least some level of management by now. I agree with a previous post in this thread that movement to a different department or company may be what is needed to "reap the rewards" of an MBA, and if that's the case, so be it. I agree with another posting that current employers may not like or want employees with new, higher level knowledge and education. In my specific situation, I think that is the case because they are starting to show signs that the company will not pay for it. Should they? I say yes because it makes me more valuable to the company to enhance my career in this manner. In my humble opinion, adding an MBA to a technical background -- and ultimately a movement into management -- would go a long way towards making IT the business partner, like Human Resources or Accounting, that it deserves to be.

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Pros and Cons about MBA+IT

by mhfl In reply to

Hello Jim,

the vision that you have here is the same as mine. Ok, you have a good background of IT (certifications and so),but didn?t reached the "point" that you though you would. It is time for you to do an MBA, or a PMP, PMI, (Project Management Certifications) etc.. This will, for sure, enhance yuo as a person and as a professional, leading you to the point that you want. I don?t have a PM cert or MBA, but I am planning to have it in the future (for the same reason you mentioned).
I also agree about that some managers/companies would not like this situation. Sometimes you can be stucked in a position, with no possibilities to move around. In your case, you are already seeing some signs that they don?t want, or don?t need you with this degree. So, maybe it is really time to move on....

Hope I helped :))

marcoshac

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by con_sultan_t In reply to The MBA and IT

Jim,

You should first ask yourself: "Why didn't I progress as I expected?" It is a wrong assumption that after getting an MBA, you will skyrocket into the management ranks automatically. To be a manager, you need to have an assertive attitude towards life. This attitude comes natural to some and some others need to learn this, but it is difficult.

During an MBA, you will get knowledge, vocabulary and insights in how things should work. However, those are not cookbook recipes! One needs to have a thinking mind, to be able to apply this with benefits to any company.

It is a well-known fact that recent MBA-graduates switch companies after graduation. This fact doesn't make companies eager to pay for it. But the attitude and potential of an employee are also important factors that an employer takes into account, when such a request hits his desk. I do not know you sufficiently, to be able to make a judgement on you.

Furthermore, one should see the MBA as a driver's license:you have shown to be able to handle a car, now you need to learn driving! And nobody can help you with that! The question that you need to ask yourself: "Do I have the qualities to become a good driver?" If you don't, an MBA will be a waste of time and money.

Personal note: As a consultant, I believed it would be easier to get into strategic projects, if I had an MBA-degree. With hindsight, I can share that my attitude is way more important than an MBA-degree. The MBA did make me more self-assured, because I had more knowledge about "The bigger picture", so eventually I did reap the benefits.

Good luck with your self-analysis!

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I agree with your assessment, but...

by Identcc In reply to

Eric,

You are right in stating that I shouldn't assume an MBA will skyrocket me or anyone else into management. It's just not realistic to make that assumption. It has been my intent to use it as a way of obtaing the necessary knowledge so thatI can work my way into it a little easier in the future. In fact, I see the MBA as a supplement to my technical background versus a career change.

I am aware that MBA's tend to move upon obtaining the degree, but I've tried to show my employer that developing my career, first with the technical certs and now with the MBA, will make me more valuable to the company. I'm not sure if they will buy it or not, but if they do, I fully intend to do what I say I want to do and that is to help grow the company.

I am aware that once a person receives his MBA there is still a lot to learn, but it's been my view that in order to eventually take my career to a new level, this may be necessary. I wish it weren't. I don't relish the thought of more college. It's just that after ten years (and what I "thought" was a team-player attitude), I would be more than the Maytag Repair Man. Yes, there could be political and other issues, but my view is that anything I can do to maximize my chances is something I should at least consider.

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