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The US War censorship

By Oz_Media ·
Journalists on the Controlled, Censored and Biased Media Coverage of the Iraq War:

This is from American, UK and Middle East journalists.

John Swinton, the former Chief of Staff for the New York Times, was one of New York's best loved newspapermen. Called by his peers "The Dean of his Profession", John was asked in 1953 to give a toast before the New York Press Club, and in so doing, made a monumentally important and revealing statement. He is quoted as follows:

"There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar weekly salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities, and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
US Illegally Removes Pages from Iraq UN Report

"Throughout the winter of 2002, the Bush administration publicly accused Iraqi weapons declarations of being incomplete. The almost unbelievable reality of this situation is that it was the United States itself that had removed over 8,000 pages of the 11,800 page original report.

This came as no surprise to Europeans however, as Iraq had made extra copies of the complete weapons declaration report and unofficially distributed them to journalists throughout Europe. The Berlin newspaper Die Tageszetung broke the story on December 19, 2002 in an article by Andreas Zumach."

The list of proof that the US censors it's news just goes on and on. There's even White House documentation outlining what can and can't be reported, this is The White House not some lefty organization with a boe to pick. The main issue is that during Iraq, embedded reporters were still told many of the reports were were security infringements and easily removed from pubilc eye, even when NONE of the rules outlining Areas, nubers of troops etc. were NOT broken by the report. It simply gave The White House (under a very vague and simple set of rules) the abiity to remove ANYTHING they didn't think made america loko pretty. It is shown time and time again, by Walter Cronkite, Baerbara Walters and a hoard of other reporters that they MUST provide a shiny and positive view of any wars America is involved with and negative images and reports are not accepted by the American public. Images of fallen Iraqi's are aceptable, images of fallen Americans are not. Plain and simple, this is documented, proven and confirmed by the White House as they will only report certain news in the USA under VERY strict guidelines.

Reporters were SUPPOSED to be embedded into active units and allowed acces to military operations, after signing a waiver to remove the US from responsibility if they are hurt, under the premise that ALL reports MUST be cleared by the US and they were to report to certain GROUP editors and all stories must pass through these GROUP leaders before being released. These GROUP censors were under direct orders of the Pentagon so as to refrain from showing ANY information that may defame or release information about Us operations.

You guys are supposed to be diggers, how can you not have seen all this? How can you be SO in-tune with the American government but not understand that reports are stifled and controlled? How is it that the rest of th eworld nkows this yet you don't?

Two answers,
1) You refuse to accept it as truth no matter what the source, including the Pentagon and The White House.

2) You have had your media censored and this information hasn't been shown in the USA.

Either way, the US government controls what you do or do not see of the war, it is a noncontestable issue, it is pure FACT.

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by gralfus In reply to The US War censorship

Our gov't doesn't censor a single thing in the press, except where the information comes from the gov't, or would endanger certain lives.

Individual news companies control what their reporters give out as news. Commentaries are less controlled, but still are generally subject to the management. A journalist who is pissed that he/she can't spew out opinion as news needs to find another job, maybe with Michael Moore. The Internet is an open forum where blogs and zines abound with every opinion under the sun. Even published magazines abound with opinion that is often extremely harsh against our gov't. Where is the censorship? It doesn't exist. If it did, I wouldn't be able to read your posting.

Honestly, people that whine about censorship need to spend some time in China or North Korea. That is what censorship looks like. Open your mouth, go to jail. Distribute a leaflet, go to jail. Try to organize a rally, all of you go to jail. Take up arms, either die or jail and torture. That is censorship.

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Or in Iraq or Afganastan...

by SonicClang In reply to Poshtwaddle

...before we took the war on terror to the terrorists, if you spoke out, you were beheaded.

Oz, there simply isn't censorship in the media forced by the goverment. Except for the FCC, which only censors harsh language (and I know that's debatable because of what happened to Howard Stern, but that's off topic).

Sorry Oz, but you're wrong

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Sorry bkline but you're completely and utterly delusional.

by Oz_Media In reply to Or in Iraq or Afganastan. ...

It is not a debatable issue, this is a proven fact that has been in existence for over 50 years.

It's not a metter or if, or, how. It just IS and always HAS been. In the UKL they see wartime censorship, it is looser now than before but still there. They accept and know this all too well. Why is it that US citizens think the government is so golden and forthright that it wouldn't mislead the pubilc the same way every other country's government does? Nobody else buys government BS, but in the US it is the truth?!?

Get over it and wake up guys, it just aint true. Your government, mine, Uk's and every other lies like a rug to achieve it's own agendas, only other country's citizens realize it.

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Well how about the GUIDELINES set out by the Pentagon and The White House

by Oz_Media In reply to Poshtwaddle

The US government has had reporting restrictions in place since WWII, in case you are unaware.

the worst restrictions are saidn to be during Vietnam and the Gulf War. I found the actual Pentagon guidelines for fre reporting earlier but didn't save the link so I'll dig again and see if I can find it.

In the meantime, how can you be so lost as to say this doesn't happen when it is PROVEN beyond a shadow of a doubt by even The White House and Pentagon, that they restrict what can be aired in the US? This is also said to be even further restricted by networks that only wish to report information that would favour their advertisers thoughts or actions.

Here are some more links for you in case searching is a chore.

The real, and dangerous, point is that the Bush Administration and the military were so successful in controlling information about the war that they were able to tell the public just about what they wanted the public to know. Perhaps worse, press and public largely acquiesced in this disclosure of only selected information

Reporting America at war:

Reporting from the front lines

Statement Sent to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld on Wartime Censorship
During the Persian Gulf War, however, the Department of Defense inhibited news coverage of combat operations by forcing reporters and photojournalists into small pools under the control of military officials and by attempting to exercise editorial control over news content. The Pentagon and the news media subsequently reached an accord in 1992 regarding coverage of military campaigns that recognized that "open and independent" reporting would be the norm for such coverage. With combat operations now underway in Afghanistan and possibly developing elsewhere, it is time to make good on that guarantee.

Wartime censorship blinds public, reporter says
The United States government heavily censored the press during the Persian Gulf War in 19**, Sloyan said. "We were badly hindered during (operation) Desert Storm," he said, adding that every story was subjected to censorship and could even be blocked from reaching newsrooms.

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That is censorship to a point...

by mrafrohead In reply to Poshtwaddle


What you are listing above as censorship is true, but only covers part of it. Granted it is IMO the most drastic part of it, but there is still more.

IE... Just not reporting the truth.

Case in point:

Remember maybe a month ago, the three British POW's that were rescued??? Betcha didn't know that there were also 8 US POW's that were rescued. I have a friend that was involved in the mission. I knew about it WAY before it was reported. Even more than that, they did not report that there were any US troops. To discover that, you would have to research a foreign news agency.

Do you remember reading about when we had BinLaden cornered in the Afghan mountains??? I sure as **** didn't, at least not on any US owned papers. But I was able to read all about it on the foreign sites.

Not including facts because they may be seen in a slightly negative or even grey light is not appropriate. Either you include it all or you include nothing. And if you include nothing, you're still a liar as you know what is going on, but continue to say all is well when it is not.

I would have never expected this type of treatment to happen to our citizens in our own country, but it does go to show all of the conspiracy theory crap I have been reading as long as I can remember actually does have some credibility to it.


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Propaganda and Covert Action

by admin In reply to The US War censorship

I would much rather have some Propaganda and Covert Action, **** even another Cold War than a bunch of Soldiers and Civilians having to be killed.

It's kind of funny though... the press reporting on cover-ups in the press... if it really was censored do you think they would let them run a story that says they were censored? They sale a lot of content with conspiracy and cover-up stories :)

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Well everyone's missed the point so far

by Oz_Media In reply to Propaganda and Covert Act ...

THis censorship is WARTIME specific, not a blanket on he media.

There are and have been VERY strict guidelines for war reports in the US since WWII. If this is news to ANY of you, just search it out. The Pentagon's exact rules for war time "free rpess reports" are posted online.

For someone tro report that they were censored during a previous war is NOT restricted as it is outside of WarTime reporting.

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Of course

by gralfus In reply to Well everyone's missed th ...

In wartime, we don't wan't CNN telling the Taliban where our troops are headed, their numbers, and what sort of armament they have. There actually was a bit of that during our last president's term in office, so this one cracked down on it, and I agree. It isn't newsworthy information and can only harm our troops. I can remember being appalled at the information that our news services were broadcasting into the Arab countries, putting our people in harm's way so they could get the scoop.

I still don't count that as censorship. It is simply keeping info out of the enemy's hands until the conflict is over. It isn't like we are massacring villages and not allowing people to know. The reporters were allowed to accompany troops and could report after the information was no longer a threat.

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I agree completely

by Oz_Media In reply to Of course

That is the problem though. The White House and Pentagon have laid down very vague rules outlining that such information can't be used, and reporters obviously respect that, well MOST do.

The problem is, these same restrictions are being used very tightly and are being used to edit questionable actions that may change the general US support for the invasion that provide no security issues but merely show the negative atrocities of the damage done during a war.

Now from what I have researched this was VERY strong during the Vietnam war and the war in Iran, however even with them saying they have loosened the noose so to speak, they are still using a vague set of rule to control what reports are shown what photos are viewed etc.

Personally I don't think it's the governments bunsiness to diffuse what MAY change my feelings or decide what is appropriate to see and what isn't if my son or daughter is in a foreign land.

As foor breaching security measures or releasing information, it is clearly outlined in the free press guidelines that they are not to report on numbers of troops, names of troops, positions etc. that may endanger lives or breach operations.

During Vietnam this same documentation added that no negative reports on America were allowed at all. I am actually trying to find these docs again as I lost track of them this morning.

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This sums it all up right here:

by mrafrohead In reply to I agree completely

Per OZ:
"Personally I don't think it's the governments bunsiness to diffuse what MAY change my feelings or decide what is appropriate to see and what isn't if my son or daughter is in a foreign land."

That's it right there...

When your government is "feeding" you information instead of letting you decide, that's just plain wrong.

With that happening, we may as well be in a communist country where we no longer have the right to our own opinion. I don't want my government making my opinion for me. I should be fed ALL information possible so I can make an educated opinion from the truth.

What is happening with our news right now is akin to the boy who cried wolf.

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