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"Three Wheels on My Wagon"

By grax ·
An otherwise excellent discussion of the problems confronting the Open Source community in the light of Microsoft?s deals with Novell and Xandros was derailed when one contributor took my comments personally and accused me of slamming Microsoft?s products and clients. As if I would!

Offense was taken when I likened Microsoft to a motor manufacturer. It went like this: ?You bought a shiny new car called XP (or maybe Vista) only to find that there was a wheel missing. When you went back to the manufacturer for the missing/defective part they supplied a ?new? one, but the tyre was flat?

I?ve used it before but it struck a cord with at least one contributor who compared Microsoft to Jaguar in the 1970?s. My experience was with a Lotus that kept losing wheels at inconvenient moments.

Sadly, the discussion reached its maximum load. Have you noticed that it always happens when there?s something interesting going on?

So, to lighten everybody?s day I?d like to ask if anyone has an analogy that they?d like to offer to describe the antics of any company or product in the computer world.

Sometimes, one needs a little light relief. A sense of humour helps too.

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Another automobile analogy for Windows (security)

by Absolutely In reply to "Three Wheels on My Wagon ...

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=223583&messageID=2245926

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Backstory.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to "Three Wheels on My Wagon ...

For everyone else's benefit, the discussion grax is referring to is on TR here: http://tinyurl.com/2q57hp

I'm the party he's referring to. I took offense at the sentences, "For you, the Windows User, this may seem to be largely irrelevant, except that it isn?t. You are the real victim in all this."

I've been know to use the auto analogy myself, but I was (and still am) confused by your use of "missing wheel" and "flat tyre". If you had said it runs sluggish, or gets lousy mileage, I'd be right with you; but what's missing or unserviceable?

I felt the analogy and the word "victim" implied I would buy an a car (or an operating system) without having done the research to locate potential problems, and that I was being taken advantage of without my knowledge.

grax, when a discussion hits "Maximum Level Reached", you can go back to the message one level up and reply to it. This has become a standard workaround, but sometimes it results in a confusion of multiple "max level" posts being stacked under the next-to-last-level message. If you do this, it helps to include the name of the person you're responding to in the post title.

I'm about ready to stop using the car analogy. Most cars are single-purpose machines, unlike computers. Most have internal combustion engines with differences I perceive as minimal when compared to operating system differences. Cars are hardware; I think they makes a poor analogy for hardware-and-software computers. I haven't found a good replacement analogy yet.

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applying the car analogy

by Absolutely In reply to Backstory.

Many motor vehicles are capable of transporting one or more passengers on any public road. Some are capable off-road (some also off-road, some only off-road). A vehicle that is incapable of safe travel on Interstate freeways, such as a moped, is commonly considered a lower class of vehicle. Apply that analogies to operating systems as you see fit.

"Your mileage may vary!"

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Thank You

by grax In reply to applying the car analogy

"Your mileage may vary!"

You just made a grouchy old man very happy.

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You're very welcome.

by Absolutely In reply to Thank You

"You just made a grouchy old man very happy."

I'm not surprised; writing it also made this grouchy old many very happy!

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Struggling to Smile here.

by grax In reply to Backstory.

?I've been know to use the auto analogy myself, but I was (and still am) confused by your use of "missing wheel" and "flat tyre".

The ?Three Wheel? analogy refers to the attitude of the supplier, not to the vehicle.
The ?thing? as sold, clearly isn?t fit for purpose (unless it?s a Reliant Robin). That which is supposed to make it so is itself defective ? and so it goes on. Compare the Three Wheel Vehicle Supplier with the supplier of a certain Operating System and its endless updates (flat tyres!!!).

?If you had said it runs sluggish, or gets lousy mileage, I'd be right with you; but what's missing or unserviceable??

The use of proper English? I might say that it ran sluggishly, but I?ve always been a bit of a pedant where the use of English is concerned. Not funny enough.

?I felt the analogy and the word "victim" implied I would buy an a car (or an operating system) without having done the research to locate potential problems, and that I was being taken advantage of without my knowledge.?

There was no such implication, but it may come as a surprise to you to know that the majority of Windows Users do precisely that. They take it on trust that their shiny new computer is fit for purpose. (Well, that's what the advertising says!) Most of us, on the other hand, do very nicely from the fact that it isn?t; fit for purpose.

As I pointed out elsewhere, you should not have taken this personally, but, on reflection one might suggest that you are being taken advantage of with your full knowledge! Now that would be funny in a quirky sort of way.

?grax, when a discussion hits "Maximum Level Reached", you can go back to the message one level up and reply to it. ?

I know that, but I?m a stickler for rules and prefer not to have to belabour a point too much. Go on; tell me that?s precisely what I?m doing here.

?I'm about ready to stop using the car analogy.?

Since you admit to being confused by it that?s probably a wise decision.

?I haven't found a good replacement analogy yet.?

Keep looking, but in the meantime, a few witty, off the cuff remarks would lighten the load, and thanks for being a Good Sport..

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Thanks.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Struggling to Smile here.

"The ?Three Wheel? analogy refers to the attitude of the supplier"

Okay, I'm with you now.

"I might say that it ran sluggishly, ..."

Y'all ain't from the (American) South, is you, boy?

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Rhetorical Question?

by grax In reply to Thanks.

?Y'all ain't from the (American) South, is you, boy??

No Siree, but you could tell that from the way that I spell humour.

Coming, as I do, from a smallish damp island where the poeple still have delusions of grandeur; a sense of the absurd is invaluable.

This is why I like the idea of a car with only three wheels. An absurdity that couldn?t possibly exist, or could it?
http://www.3wheelers.com/robin.html

It just goes to show that there?s a whole other world out there.

Have a nice weekend.

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I didn't need the link.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Rhetorical Question?

We used to get "Mr. Bean" over here.

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