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'TR Community Newsletter' axed.

By CharlieSpencer ·
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"Dear Readers: All good things must come to an end, and so it is with TechRepublic's Community Central. This is the final edition of the newsletter."

Another unifying feature discontinued. No more birthday notices or swap giveaways. (Happy B'day to Mae and Ansu, by the way.) This place has really changed in the last three years. The sense of community has been lost; it's just another web site.

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makes it kinda sad

by PurpleSkys In reply to 'TR Community Newsletter' ...

doesn't it I miss a lot of the joking interactions with folks...and the barbing with others

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A pick axe?

by tcavadias Staff In reply to makes it kinda sad

.. I could pass out pick axes, and we could stick them all in Palmie :-D

-Tammy [_]3

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Pick axes???`

by CharlieSpencer In reply to A pick axe?

The shovel has always been the tool of choice for Palmie abuse.

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Pick shovel...

by tcavadias Staff In reply to Pick axes???`

Now that makes for an interesting new abuse tool ;-) :-)

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Nah, to abuse Palmie,

by wizard57m-cnet Moderator In reply to Pick shovel...

you just need to bop him upside the head with an air wrench
or jack from Nascar Sprint Cup Series, hehe!
How'd you like that Daytona 500 Palmie?

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I hate restrictor plate races

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Nah, to abuse Palmie,

If it was my call, I'd knock the banking down at Daytona and Talladega so the drivers can go back to actually racing, not running a 200mph parade.

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Too bad it's not our call...

because I would like to see that as well. This years Daytona
500 seemed sort of just there...maybe it's the new cars, and
drivers/crews not being as accustomed to them, but it sure
seemed like there was not much passing going on. When
the most exciting "racing" is getting off of pit lane during a
yellow, something is just missing.

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Coming from a country where Circuit

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to I hate restrictor plate r ...

Racing means turning left and right I always saw Oval racing as Speedway which is a low end cheap motor sport that contributes nothing to the development of the breed.

When there was some New Developments the PTB stamped on them very quickly like the Gas Turbine Cars which all flamed out during a race and then had the rules changed to make then uncompetitive.

Somehow choosing which plastic to use in a Window in no way improves the End Product which is what we all drive. If the current Nascar Rules where in place when they started we would still be hand cranking engines to start them and wondering what brakes where today.


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I enjoy road course racing too.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to I hate restrictor plate r ...

But as a spectator, one thing to be said for ovals is that I can see the entire track from one spot.

I'm not a gearhead, so the technology level never mattered much to me. The goal of manufacturers participating in NASCAR was never to improve the consumer product anyway. It was to showcase their existing vehicles. True, the cars they field on the track nowadays have little in common with what's on the showroom floor; at least the body styles are closer this year, and they finally abandoned carbs for injection. But for some reason the old 'Win on Sunday, sell on Monday' still holds true.

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That is because most people see the Badge

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to I hate restrictor plate r ...

And believe that it represents the make of car when in actual fact there is very little of that brand involved.

Here the Bathurst 1000 for local Tin Tops Holden GM and Ford use a basic shape of the car for each brand and the engine but everything else is Special some being for safety like Fuel Cells which do not leak in a crash and others like Gearboxes which are Race Specials and where never fitted to any Road Car they where built for racing and the ability to easily change gear ratios quickly for different tracks or car setups.

The Old Ford Diff is still popular or at least was the last time I looked but that was a while ago now as I don't really follow that type of racing other than occasionally looking at some sort of failure and writing a report to prevent that happening again. Things like Fuel Rails for Injector Systems which leak come to mind but there is very little else that even comes close to what is supplied as Production Vehicles. Most do not even start with anything but a Body Shell and build their race cars from that after reworking the basic shell to suit their needs. Things like welding every metal joint get done which simply isn't in any Production Vehicle and all Engine, Transmission and Suspension Mount Points are changed to suit what is being used by that team.

However what really put me off Oval Racing was the crowds who attend as they seem to me to be more interested in the crashes than Motor Racing as to them there is no Motor Racing without big nasty looking crashes. Hence they want to see all of the track so that they miss none of the crashes and make sure that they get a better view of them when they occur.

Of course like the recent one where so many cars came together and mounted the walls a lot will complain that they got injured by bits of car entering the spectator areas. Ideally this should not happen but honestly it's what the majority of spectators want to see.


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