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Transfer from WIN 98SE to WIN XP Home

By rovoco ·
A customer is currently running WIN 98SE on a
4 year old PC. I am building him a new PC, which
will have a fresh install of WIN XP HOME on it,
eventually upgraded to SP2.

To avoid reinstalling all his applications and
files on the new PC, which is going to take a
very long time, I would like to try to merge his
old hard drive onto the new one, but maintain the
integrity of the fresh WIN XP HOME install as much
as possible.

Should I first upgrade his old operating system
to WIN XP HOME and then use a utility such as
Acronis Migrate Easy to copy everything from his
old hard drive to the new one?

Would using Acronis True Image be a better bet?

Am I stuck with the option of installing his old
hard drive with the WIN XP HOME upgrade on it as
a slave drive and then addressing it from the new
drive? Any reason to go with dual boot here?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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by OnTheRopes In reply to Transfer from WIN 98SE to ...

I just reviewed Acronis True Image and it looks like it will do the job with it's clone feature. Never having used it I can't say for sure. I use Partitionmagic and Ghost.
Assuming that Acronis acts the same, you'd likely be better off cloning and creating a back-up of the 98SE before doing anything else-just in case.
I would first download to the 98SE all of the drivers you'll need for components you install in the new pc. That way, when you clone the drive to the new pc if all the drivers don't load for the new components they'll be on the drive ready for installing them.
I'd make sure the 98SE functioned correctly on the new PC before upgrading to XP. There may be issues with SATA, PCIe etc.

When you do upgrade the new pc from 98SE to XP you'll have whatever file system that was in use in 98SE, likely FAT32. You may have to continue to use that for the programs already installed on the 98SE.


Doing a fresh, full XP installation and reinstalling all of the users applications, in my mind, is always a better option. There will never be a better time to have a fresh start.

I usually have 4-7 pc's in various stages of repair/optimization/upgrading at the same time so the "very time consuming" issue never comes up. It's not like you have to drop everything to work on just one pc. After all, a Windows XP upgrade or fresh install takes at least 39 minutes, right? You don't spend all of that time watching it, just catch the dialogue boxes. By the time you had all of the users programs reinstalled along with all of their data I doubt that you'll have even a single hour actually demanding that you interact with the keyboard and mouse.

There may be some M$ and other program EULA issues to deal with if there aren't any program disks.

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by OnTheRopes In reply to

Just so you are aware, a good (safe) registry repair tool will find at least 300-400+ errors in XP Home Sp1 on a clean, fresh install! There is NO DOUBT there will be a lot more than that if you clone.
Errors WILL slow the PC down. Bad registry repairs will stop it from running at all.
Also, I'm not sure if Microsoft still offers it but they used to give away XP Sp2 update CD's for the cost of shipping. Saves downloading. There will probably still be at least 40 updates even with a fresh Sp2 installation.

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by rovoco In reply to

Yes, that's what I thought. Fortunately, the original disks
for most of the applications exist, although some older ones
may not run on XP. Thanks for the info concerning XP errors.
Doesn't build a lot of confidence, does it? I have been using
System Mechanic 3.8d for registry repair and hard drive clean
up and so far, it has been solid. What do you recommend?

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by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Transfer from WIN 98SE to ...

While it may work chances are that it is more likely than not that it will not work. Particularly with some of the new hardware available quite a lot no longer has support for 98 so there are some things that just will not run or be able to install drivers for.

Even if it does actually run with the Cloned Drive you are going to have one big mess on your hands as there will be bits of various drivers left on the system that could potentially reek havoc at a latter stage. Doing a Clean Install is always the best way possible particularly if you are supplying a new machine. You do not want to be in a position where something on the old OS causes the new machine to stop working. If this where to happen the owner would blame you for the problem and will never accept that it is a problem with transferring the entire contents of a HDD over to a different computer.

Once they have something to complain about you'll never hear the end of it as they will believe that they have a valid complaint and never be satisfied with what you have supplied.

If you do the job properly in the first place you minimize the potential problems latter on and the time spent on installing the software properly first up will be minor in comparison to all the wasted time looking for faults that either don't exist or even worse are a result of not doing the job properly in the first place.

There is a reason why you don't move a Windows Boot Drive between computers and expect it to work properly on different pieces of Hardware so why should you consider doing this on a new computer?

Col

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by rovoco In reply to

Your comments are much appreciated. Yes, there will be some
hardware on the new PC that is probably not compatible with
98SE, such as an SATA hard drive and PCIe video card. Also,
there are some older DOS aps that won't run in XP and will
surely mess things up. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

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by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Transfer from WIN 98SE to ...

While it may work chances are that it is more likely than not that it will not work. Particularly with some of the new hardware available quite a lot no longer has support for 98 so there are some things that just will not run or be able to install drivers for.

Even if it does actually run with the Cloned Drive you are going to have one big mess on your hands as there will be bits of various drivers left on the system that could potentially reek havoc at a latter stage. Doing a Clean Install is always the best way possible particularly if you are supplying a new machine. You do not want to be in a position where something on the old OS causes the new machine to stop working. If this where to happen the owner would blame you for the problem and will never accept that it is a problem with transferring the entire contents of a HDD over to a different computer.

Once they have something to complain about you'll never hear the end of it as they will believe that they have a valid complaint and never be satisfied with what you have supplied.

If you do the job properly in the first place you minimize the potential problems latter on and the time spent on installing the software properly first up will be minor in comparison to all the wasted time looking for faults that either don't exist or even worse are a result of not doing the job properly in the first place.

There is a reason why you don't move a Windows Boot Drive between computers and expect it to work properly on different pieces of Hardware so why should you consider doing this on a new computer?

Col

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by rovoco In reply to

Your comments are much appreciated. Yes, there will be some
hardware on the new PC that is probably not compatible with
98SE, such as an SATA hard drive and PCIe video card. Also,
there are some older DOS aps that won't run in XP and will
surely mess things up. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

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by TheChas In reply to Transfer from WIN 98SE to ...

Why make more work and expense than you have too?

Once the new machine is ready, set up a network or direct cable connection between the 2 PCs.

Insert the XP CD into the hard drive on the W98 system.

Run the Windows XP file and setting transfer Wizard, and prepare the W98 system to transfer files, settings, and applications to the new system.

Once the old system is prepared, startup the file and settings transfer Wizard on the new PC and you will get all that is compatible with XP transfered over to the new system.

Chas

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by rovoco In reply to

Sounds like a plan! Whatever doesn't transfer is probably
not going to run in XP and that saves a lot of messing about.
The 98SE machine is FAT32. Should not cause problems as long
as XP selects those programs and files that are compatible,
yes?

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by antuck In reply to Transfer from WIN 98SE to ...

I would have to aggree with Hal and Chas and just do a clean install and then transfer your data over.

You would be setting your self up for more work doing it the way you mentioned. You're always better off with a fresh install then an upgrade.

I just built a new computer for someone and they had an old system with 98SE. They wanted to see about doing the upgrade but I did talk them out of it. I used the file and setting transfer that comes with XP. Unfortunatly I did encounter some problems and decided to just copy the data over.

If Outlook is a program you are looking to get everything backed up, Microsoft does have a back up tool you can download from thier site. It does a great job of backing everything up. Just watch were it wants to put the data at.

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