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By Bratt ·
I have been working as a fulltime temp for the same company for two years. I watch as they hire new people for different fields because more body's are needed. I started out as a part time temp and now get about 4-5 hour of overtime a week in and have been for the past 4 months but they have yet to hire me. All of the computer users love me if they have a problem they call me because they don't like our administrator (he's grumpy). I have started to do more and more administrative jobs such as configuring our backup server, restoring lost files, custom ordering engineering machines, setting up new users in Novell, and the list goes on. I love my job and the people I work with but I am tired of watching others get hired and not me. I am also tired of hearing how great peoples vacation time is when I work just as hard and don't get vacation or medical benefits for my family. The owners keep saying that they are not sure what they want to do with IT what ever that means but it's obvious to me there is a need. Advice?

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by john_wills In reply to Treated differently than ...

Have you actually applied for a position?

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Applied for a position here?

by Bratt In reply to ask

This company has a need and obviously need me or I wouldn't be running 9 hours a day to get things done. I have not looked for another job because I am afraid I wont be hired. I am a self taught person with gaps in my knowledge.

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In the same boat...

by cfstokes In reply to Applied for a position he ...

I'm in a very similar position. It's been a little over a year now and I'm still a temp. Note: temp NOT contractor (there is a difference).

I understand your difficulties: you never feel you belong and the lack of benefits is annoying. While others rejoice over the Thanksgiving vacation I am merely nervous about paying my bills with the loss of two day's pay. It is aggravating to make a substantial contribution to the firm and watch permanent employees skate.

You say earlier in your posts "there are gaps in my knowledge". You sound like you lack confidence. So did I when I started my current job - Programmer/Analyst. I've taken the year to build my skills and confidence so this temp gig has been a very good thing for me.

But it is time for me to get something permanent. The firm says they love me - and I get this from senior management (others don't really count do they?) I'm involved in key ongoing projects and while no one ever is irreplacable the firm would have some heartburn if I was to leave.

So why no job offer? Truth is I'm cheap. They're getting quality work for roughly half the going rate. Microsoft was sued in the recent past for using temps to dodge the burden. Since then many companies, mine included, adopted an internal policy of not using a temp beyond one year. When I ran up against the deadline I thought that I'd get on permanent. To my chagrin, they just got a waiver on the policy for me from the VP of Finance!

So what am I doing? I made it clear to my manager that I am looking which pains him but he has a headcount restriction. I've been interviewing lately and when I show up for work in a suit and take an early out he and everyone else suddenly realize once more that I am a temp. A flurry of discussion about headcount ensues. I am serious about the job search too - no idle bluff. I had a good interview last week and I'm going to take the job if offered. It like this firm and really like the people I work with but I have a responsibility to myself and family to gain full benefits.

But - I'm hanging on to this temp job (work is hard to find in my location). I've told the agency to up my rate at the 1st of January - I'll still be a bargain but this might inspire some movement in the main office.

My advice based on my experience:

1) Improve skills and confidence.
2) Be cheerful and accepting of the situation.
3) Make a sincere effort to find another job.
4) Be open and honest with your manager.
5) If you can, get a bump in your rate.
6) Hang on to that job until you find another.

Best wishes.

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and most importantly

by AnswerMan In reply to In the same boat...

Most importantly, don't forget to go to http://www.oddtodd.com click on downloads, and then proceed to download and watch the following:

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Or anything else that floats your boat. A little comic relief can go a long way.......

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Good Advise!

by Gerra In reply to In the same boat...

This was one of the best replies to this type of question I have seen in a long time. There was excellent advise, and personal experience to back it up. I am in a similar situation, but with enough differences to make it a non-issue here. I just wanted to say "Atta-Boy" to cfstokes@hotmail.com for the thoughtful and apropos words.

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Prepare for the worst but hope for the best..

by k1w1 In reply to In the same boat...

One thing I've learnt about IT is it's so fickle. So you must prepare for the worst but hope for the best. In your case you would be better off out of your situation as they are using you. Two years as a temp, that is outrageous. I'm beating if you approached your boss and asked for full time employment he would turn you down. So get another job and once you have a job offer in hand, approach your boss about hiring you full time. If the worse happens and he says no, hand in your notice. Time to move on.
On a side note, if you are really good at what you do, a hard worker and quietly went about taking care of IT business, your x-boss may come calling at your new job location with an offer. One can never tell...

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Prepare for the worst but hope for the best..

by k1w1 In reply to In the same boat...

One thing I've learnt about IT is it's so fickle. So you must prepare for the worst but hope for the best. In your case you would be better off out of your situation as they are using you. Two years as a temp, that is outrageous. I'm beating if you approached your boss and asked for full time employment he would turn you down. So get another job and once you have a job offer in hand, approach your boss about hiring you full time. If the worse happens and he says no, hand in your notice. Time to move on.
On a side note, if you are really good at what you do, a hard worker and quietly went about taking care of IT business, your x-boss may come calling at your new job location with an offer. One can never tell...

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excellent response cfstokes

by cseager In reply to In the same boat...

Well thought out comments and advice. I hope Bratt takes you up on your advice.

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Great post!

by go_browns_01 In reply to In the same boat...

Great post, probably the best advice I have ever seen on any message board ever anywhere.

One question -

Where were you when I needed you?

(Spent almost 6(!) years as a temp. Biggest mistake I ever made. I can actually see the person at the interview thinking, "must be something really wrong if six years and never hired.")

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by vltiii In reply to Applied for a position he ...

Don't be a victim of your own fears. No one knows everything and with each new job there is expected to be a learning curve. As long as you don't try, you'll never know. The worst that could happen by applying for another job is that you don't get the position.

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