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Trying to install linux...help

By fluidtech ·
What a nightmare!
Can any one point em to a good (free) package and give me a pinter or two about installing. I have tried a few different ones, and the isntructions are all over the place...it's like reading the instructions for how to de-fuse a bomb, where after you call all the wires they tell you to, there is a line at the end that says, "before you cut any of the wires listed above..."
I'm new to linux but, I'm not an idiot and these ones I have tried just ain't doin it for me.
Any help would be appreciated.

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More details?

by grbeckmeyer In reply to Trying to install linux.. ...

More details about what you HAVE tried may help, but here are a couple suggestions from somewhat of a Linux newb:
I've installed Suse and Mandrake without much trouble, though for the Suse install you should definitely have a basic understanding of networking. Also, have you tried any of the 'Live' CD's? Seems like many distros have them, in theory they shouldn't be any more difficult than burning an ISO image to a CD.

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Start out with SUSE or Mandrake.

by Prolifiq In reply to Trying to install linux.. ...

From your frustration, it sounds like you got ahold of Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, or another of the less intuitive Linux distributions. For people new to Linux, I agree with GR... go with SUSE or Mandrake. GUI-based installations, automatic partitioning, easy package updating, etc.

Speaking of "packages"... I noticed you said you were looking for a good (free) Linux "package".

FYI, so the geeks won't mess with you, "package" in Linux-speak usually refers to Linux apps or drivers packaged as "RPM" (Red Hat Package Manager) or "Deb" (Debian package) files.

Different brands of Linux are referred to as "distributions" or "distros", for short. That'll keep the geeks from messing with you.

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Use common hardware

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Trying to install linux.. ...

What are your goals or reason for undertaking this project? I'm assuming you are doing this for the learning experience, whether personally or professionally.

Linux will run on older machines, but it will be easier to install and learn to use if you start with hardware that's less than three years old and includes only the minimal necessary hardware. You're also more likely to find drivers included with the distribution (or 'distro' for short) for components this age than if you try an antique or something on the bleeding edge.

I'm also a newbie and made the mistake of trying to install on a old Compaq server. I heard all the reports that Linux would run on almost any system, and it eventually did. But getting it to run with the out-of-date video and array controller cards and a proprietary network card was like doing my own root canal. I had a much easier installation on a four year old Compaq desktop with no network card or sound cards and video on the motherboard. Once you're comfortable, then try adding peripherals and drivers. Crawl, walk, run...

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by theroyala In reply to Use common hardware

good suggestion, lousy example.

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What didn't you like?

by CharlieSpencer In reply to

Which example, the server or the desktop? Can you be more specific about made it lousy? Without more detail, it's impossible for me to know where I made a mistake. Thanks.

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Fedora Core 3

by jmgarvin In reply to Trying to install linux.. ...

Fedora Core 3 is very similar to installing Windows. The only thing you have to know if that if you want to partition the drive yourself (not have it autopartition) you will need a /, a swap (250mb or so), and a /boot (100mb if you are ever planning on a multiboot) partition.

What are the problem you are having? What distro are you installing?

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First thing first

by _Christian_ In reply to Trying to install linux.. ...

I am nearly at the same stage as you, but I started by doing some research.

You need to decide what you want your Linux PC to be, then pick a distro accordingly.

In my case I wanted it to learn Linux on it, AND to be the firewall on my home network, so I picked IPCop for the time being, which has a fairly good reputation. It comes as an ISO image to burn on a CD, then install from it.

I can give you the most interesting URLs I found during my search:
- Linux Online - Linux Courses, http://www.linux.org/lessons/
which I am currently following myself

- Linux Distributions list, http://www.linux.org/dist/index.html
coming with a filter to selection the distribution which should match your needs

- Linux Format, http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/
Many useful infos.

I will install IPCop over the week-end on a freed hard drive which I will install on my oldest PC, so I will have no Internet access until I am done or I swapped hard drive.

I will post something here to let you know how it went.

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Thanks for the info gang !

by fluidtech In reply to Trying to install linux.. ...

I have been doing this for a friend who is not so computer savvy, because I am tired of going over all the time to devirus, teaqch about evil email, the whole Windows security issue.
Maybe this isn't a good idea? Will I end up over there more than before?
I will try some of the ideas you sent.
I tried from Fedora Core, and Ubuntu (?)...couldn't get past boot stage in either case. I think went wrong at the make CD image stage.

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three things you should know

by apotheon In reply to Thanks for the info gang ...

First, you should never try to introduce a rank amateur to new technology with which you are not yourself familiar. Learn it yourself, first. While I'm pretty firmly of the opinion that Linux can be the solution to many of your computing woes, you really need to find that out for yourself and come to your own conclusions about that. Don't just swallow what someone else is feeding you as gospel then go and expect it all to magically happen: that's a recipe for disappointment. Go into it with a maximum of curiosity and interest, and a minimum of expectations. I guarantee that whatever you expect, you'll find something else entirely. The fact that what you find will almost certainly be better than what you expect will be completely spoiled if you find your focus on the fact that your expectations were not met.

Second, you should really look into LUGs in your area. Linux User Group mailing lists are an incredible wealth of information. Once you get the hang of interacting with such a mailing list, you'll begin to realize that it is potentially the best source of computer support in the world. To find one near you, check out http://www.linux.org/groups and narrow it down by region.

Third, and probably most importantly, you need to learn a little something about how to ask for help if you're going to be hitting up linux users you don't know for help. The way you've "asked" for help here is a prime example of how to anger and alienate the most knowledgeable computer users in the world. I blame my greater tolerance on the fact that I don't know as much as many of the really frighteningly knowledgeable people out there, and the fact that I remember what it was like to be the new guy. Toward better question-asking skills, I recommend reading the following (by Eric Raymond, one of the foremost experts on Linux in the world):
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
"How to Ask Questions the Smart Way"

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wonderful philosophy

by Absolutely In reply to three things you should k ...

Thank you for that website. My interest in computers arose by accident, and to my frustration, as science studies actually required more knowledge of the operation of the tool than I had hoped. Anyway, the site http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html is like silver lining to me. It really is not too much to ask that people at least try to solve their own problems, and consider that every "reference" on the web, bundled with their products, and anywhere else, was made by a human source who deserves appreciation for the effort.

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