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Trying to recover data from old PC onto new

By nomamasboy ·
Here's what little I know: I've removed the old unbootable hard drive (A Western Digital 15GB IDE) with no problems. I've also set up the jumper in the slave position so that's ready. However I don't see a simple cable interface between it and the 160GB SATA drive of my new Vostro 200. Is there a cable(s)--I'm guessing that I'll need a power source and one for data--that I should have before I get any further and what should I look for in the Vostro to hook into?

Thanks for your patience

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re: recovering data from old pc

by ThumbsUp2 In reply to Trying to recover data fr ...

You don't "cable" the two hard drives together. You connect them both to the motherboard. You didn't say which Vostro 200 you purchased, so we can't check the MB specifications for you.

Do you see an IDE connector on the motherboard? The CD/DVD/RW drive is probably plugged into one. With proper jumper settings, you should be able to plug two devices into the same cable.

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Pics of PC guts..

by nomamasboy In reply to re: recovering data from ...

Here are two pics I just snapped of the inside of the Vostro 200- slim tower (Win XP, 2.2 GHz Core Duo) by the way. The motherboard doesn't appear as far as I can tell to have an IDE port similar to the in the old pc.

To your point about the DVD drive, it only has that 3/8" orange cable in addition to the power bundle that I can see.


http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/tabw_photo/Picture030.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg59/tabw_photo/Picture029.jpg

Thanks for your help with this.

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Those look like SATA drives based on the photos

by ManiacMan In reply to Pics of PC guts..

You won't get far with those, so you'll have to find an onboard IDE connector on your mobo to access the data on the drive. In the event your mobo has no onboard IDE conenctors, you'll have to buy an external drive enclosure that allows you to turn an IDE drive into an external USB connected drive. I really see no other way to interface it to your system otherwise. Good job on posting the pics because a photo is worth a thousands words.

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External USB drive enclosure

by nomamasboy In reply to Those look like SATA driv ...

Maniac- Is this the USB caddy Smeg mentioned or something else?

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Yes if your system lacks an internal IDE controller

by ManiacMan In reply to External USB drive enclos ...

The only way to interface an IDE drive if your mobo lacks the onboard IDE controller and connector is through an external drive caddy via USB or Firewire. If you can, can you snap some photos of the connectors on the motherboard and we'll tell you if you have IDE or not?

Thanks

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Bummer, it's a pure SATA motherboard. No onboard IDE.

by ManiacMan In reply to More PC guts

You'll have to go with the external drive caddy idea. Here's a link to the caddy you'll want to buy and it's pretty cheap...about $15:

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=AP35OTB&cat=CSE

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Or you could buy a USB Caddy for a 3.5 inch drive

by OH Smeg In reply to Trying to recover data fr ...

And set the drive to Master and fit it to the Caddy and plug it into a USB port. That way you will not run the risk of damaging your new unit and may be able to recover your data.

If you are using Vista on the new unit it may not read the old Drive as some of the security settings prevent the Vista OS from reading any HDD that it hasn't made.

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That might just be the answer

by nomamasboy In reply to Or you could buy a USB C ...

Couple of questions to illuminate my ignorance about the caddy..

1) The IDE port on the old hard drive will be connected to the caddy via the 2" wide thin flat cable that came with it right?

2) So I return the jumper on the old drive to master instead of slave, but will that interfere with the existing primary SATA drive in the new pc?

3) Then I just connect the caddy to the new pc via a USB cable and it comes up as new hardware and I can access its contents, but how does the old hard drive get power to spin?

Again thank you guys for your patience and help

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To answer your questions:

by ManiacMan In reply to That might just be the an ...

1) The IDE port on the old hard drive will be connected to the caddy via the 2" wide thin flat cable that came with it right? <B>Yes, it will have a short IDE cable and a 4 pin power connector for the drive inside the unit. The outside will have a USB plug and a power supply plug.</B>
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2) So I return the jumper on the old drive to master instead of slave, but will that interfere with the existing primary SATA drive in the new pc? <B> Yes, set it to master since it will now be a standalone drive, and no, it won't interfere with SATA because SATA is a different bus technology and has nothing to do with IDE </B>
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3) Then I just connect the caddy to the new pc via a USB cable and it comes up as new hardware and I can access its contents, but how does the old hard drive get power to spin? <B> Yes, plug-n-play will detect the new drive and in terms of power, the drive caddy will most likely come with its own external power supply cube. I doubt the USB cable has enough power to power the drive on its own. Think of the IDE drive now as a bulky external USB thumb drive.</B>
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It's all pretty simple to grasp if you think about how it all works.

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